Yeah i was watching X-play a review of GTA: San andreas for the Xbox it was a great. After the review there was extras included in the xbox version of san andreas including hot coffee mod. which allows you to date with a girl and drive her to resteraunts and drive her to her home if she invites you know what happens. If you don't know what happens? i'm afraid i can't tell because i may get ban for this! All i can tell you is that you get pleasure. Hot coffee mod is a downloadable mod from xbox live i think. I don't own that game i just thought it will be intersting for a topic including for aldult gamers out there. I think i will get ban for this topic though.

*sigh*

The "Hot Coffee" mod is not downloadable through XBL, it is on the PC and can be unlocked on the PS2 version using Action Replay (a modding device of sorts) and cheat code. The contraversy is that instead of adding content to the game, the modders were bringing out code that was built into the source. In other words, it was part of the game but was not accessable before but people have found a way around it. This pissed of the ESRB, the game rating system, and they made GTA:SA rated AO after some investigation and made retailers take older versions off the shelf. Shortly after, Rockstar, who still denies that it was diliberatly put in the source, made changes to the game so it wouldn't be accessable to avoid an Adult Only rating. Now some places like Walmart and such have stopped carrying the game altogether and many politicians, including Hilary Clinton, are up in arms about the rating system being flawed and blah blah blah.

[url=http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=ticket_to_hell]Maddox did a story about it and I actually agreed with him.[/url]

I do agree with maddox story. But who is this Hilary Cliton person?

[quote="CARNVAL372"]Hilary [b]Clit[/b]on[/quote]

The show G4TV.com (i just got the channel but i think thats the shows name) where they discuss stuff had a great discussion about the hot coffee mod. The talked to some game store owners about taking it off the shelves and that asian guy... i didnt catch his name. They kind of picked on him though because he was a douche. He has never played GTA or video games yet hes trying to get them to be held to "stricter" guidlines.

I honestly dont understand (unless like someone said, they were forced) why the retailers feel they need to take something off the shelves when you only need to be a year older to buy an AO than an M. Only thing different is nudity. Oh well, as long as in the long run none of this effects the overall way video games are made it wont effect me at all.

I justed watched X-play again for GTA:SA's Hot Coffee mod BlazingSage. And i was wrong on GTA:SA's Hot Coffee mod being a downloadable mod for the xbox. it was acuatlly for the PC. I think you downloaded in some blackmarket thing i forgot what is the name. And i think that it was the hackers that unlocked the mod. And that's probaly why Action Replay got their hands on it. Maddox story kinda confused me alittle he got an e-mail? but from who? And this Hilary Cliton person seems to be Democratic Politian isn' it? I mean shes complaining about that mod and telling retailers to take it off shelves rerate it AO rating. And i do agree with maddox that Rockstars should go out of buissness. I think the politians are furious with Rockstar games. This story also sounds fimiliar to joseph libermen's hating on Mortal Kombat And George bush hating on doom 3. Though i didn't know that before.

All my friends have been shrugging the whole debacle off and blaming Rockstar, calling it "just deserts". I'm not going to say that they aren't at fault to a degree, but the whole thing pisses me off. It's not so much a matter of San Andreas getting taken off store shelves and then being put right back with a new version that's M-rating safe, it's just a demonstration of how politics can influence the decisions of people in the entertainment industry.

I claim absurdity when a game gets shifted from one rating to a more severe one because of content that can't be accessed during the course of normal play without some third-party tinkering. The ESRB's job is to rate a game based upon the gameplay experience, and not whatever other content might be hidden on the media. Whether San Andreas deserved an AO rating from the start is moot; the ESRB gave it an M rating, and then changed their rating after discovering that there's a sexual minigame THAT YOU CAN'T PLAY. Christ.

Carnval, the article is being sarcastic. The thing I find funny is that in a game that includes carjacking, drive-bys, murder, graffiti, drug use and dealing, pimping, and burglary that the politicians are up in arms about a little sexual content that can't even be played without modification.

Hopefully this fiasco will lead to improvements in the ESRB's utterly ridiculous ratings system. I really think that changing the rating from M to AO was just to try and cover their asses. After politicians like Hilary Clinton started swarming at this, the ESRB had to do something to make it seem like they actually know what they're doing. There are actually many games that are more sexually explicit than GTA and they are rated M.

I can't wait to see what happens next as this little hack in a horribly over-rated and over-hyped game continues to be blown out of proportion. Ah, something like this:

[url]http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2005/07/27/financial/f105810D29.DTL&type=entertainment[/url]

[quote="overAmped"][url]http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2005/07/27/financial/f105810D29.DTL&type=entertainment[/url][/quote]

Thanks for the link this really gives more information about hilary cliton.
And i think it is wrong to buy a game like GTA:SA for a fourteen year old child since now it includes nudity and use of drugs. This really pisses me off. When i was 14 i like GTA:3 it was fun to play. Running over people with your vehicle in fantasy is fun. But in real life it is wrong. There was this secret content of getting 125 life points where you pick up a hooker and doing it in the car and the car shakes up and down i thought at first it was funny but it was really funny when the charcters in the car were not moving at all! and was just the car shaking up and down for no reason at all! Then after that it was GTA:VC The Game had Sexual content and gore and more cut scenes then the other old one did. They have sluty pornstars
I hate Candy Suxx She is the most annoying character in the game! And i hate those fake sex cut scenes! they ruin the game to me. I thought rockstars would stop this. stop adding ridiculous sex scenes! I agree maddox's story i played GTA to have fun. Not to watch the shitting sex scenes!

[quote="overAmped"]...the ESRB had to do something to make it seem like they actually know what they're doing.[/quote]

If they wanted to do that, they should have rated it AO from the start, or stuck with their original rating. Nobody's letting the FACTS blind them in this whole ordeal. There's no time to be slowed down by what's true or not. Maddox's article isn't completely accurate either (well, all the sarcasm aside). Yes, the girlfriends can be nude, but that's due to an [i]entirely third-party[/i] set of skins created for the mod. Simply unlocking the minigame results in them being, yes, scantily clad, but not nude. I realize I'm really splitting hairs here, but the whole debacle really pisses me off. I don't like seeing politicians push people around so easily.

[quote="Joyeuse"]Yes, the girlfriends can be nude, but that's due to an [i]entirely third-party[/i] set of skins created for the mod. Simply unlocking the minigame results in them being, yes, scantily clad, but not nude. I realize I'm really splitting hairs here, but the whole debacle really pisses me off. I don't like seeing politicians push people around so easily.[/quote]

interesting, i hadn't read that.

but splitting hairs is what this is all about... the differences between an M and AO rating are:
- 1 year of age (17+ vs 18+)
- presence of nudity/graphic sexual content (as opposed to 'sexual content')
- 'prolonged' scenes of intense violence (as opposed to just scenes of intense violence )

the AO rating seems to be intended to distinguish a pornographic sort of game, but it's still quite funny. apparently intense violence is okay but add a little nudity/sex and... OMG!!! the poor 17 year old [i]children[/i] will be corrupted!!

i certainly wouldn't say what rock star did was right, but i don't think anyone who bought this game for a kid under 17 has any right to be angry or sue, really.

terra is so lovely ^.^

[quote="thejedipunk"][quote="CARNVAL372"]Hilary [b]Clit[/b]on[/quote][/quote]

Chew on that irony everyone.

Anyway, this is just plain stupid. I've never understood why, in our society, violence is so acceptable whereas the smallest bit of sex is taboo.

In my opinion, Hillary is doing this to give the Democrats more of a "family-oriented" public image. Right now the Republicans (guns and violence) are seen as wholesome and the choice for good old boys. The Democrats (sexsexsex) are seen as some way-out-there, sissy, pacifist, baby-killing homosexuals. To me, this "scandal" seems to be an effort to change the Democrats' image.

I don't think Hillary really gives a shit about something as stupid as a little bit of sexual content in a video game. I mean, she [i]is[/i] married to Bill, after all.

Mmm politricks

I don't see how sex is very taboo in america. Maybe when it relates to families. But sex has been in the media for 60 years. everywhere. Guns and violence has been as well.