Now I'm sure you all know what a bootleg is but I'll explain to those who may not have been exposed to this.

A bootleg is an audio or video recording either fanmade or professional of a concert/studio outtake that has not been officially released. So for instance, the upcoming Trial DVD is NOT a bootleg because it is officially released.
However, some bands record shows as tests for the official recording, but it remains unreleased to the public. Somehow these can get out and some bastards like to gain profit by illegally selling these for their own gain.
That said, in the bootleg community a universal 'sharing' is the practice in that a recording is shared for free so that diehard fans can enjoy the raw experience of a show.

Ok that said, does anyone have any/know any good sites for pillows bootlegs? Preferably in lossless?

I've gotten some fan-recorded bootlegs before. I'm pretty sure that they just stick a cheap recording device into their pocket and record the show, because that's what it sounds like. Not good quality at all, but hardcore fans might want to hear them for the sake of hearing how the songs sound live or hearing new songs before they are released. I remember that it was from a fan bootleg that I heard Sono mirai wa ima for the first time, long before it was released.

I don't think any sites that specialize in this exist, and if you find any bootlegs in lossless they will probably sound about as good as a tape recorder in a blender at a rock concert... [i]in lossless[/i].

Yeah, I must admit it's really rare to find a Soundboard recording / Pro-Shot of a Japanese act unless it's been streamed over the web.

I've long dreamed of a website dedicated to bootlegs by the pillows. However, there's not as many floating around as some American bands that have large followings, such as Weezer or The Smashing Pumpkins for instance.

I actually know of the Sono Mirai wa Ima bootleg Mafu has. Pretty horrible quality, but still interesting none the less. The only real bootlegs I know that are floating around would be a show from 1997 and one from 1999, both typically labeled "Live Beat 19XX". Other random bootlegs I've found:

Robotman- 2003 at Nanba Hatch
Good Morning Good News
Video Killed the Radiostar (cover)
Boku wa Kakera- think this is from 1994, and features keyboards
Mister Buster
Rosy Head
Nightmare- this one is from a Tower Records show in 1999
Then there's a few songs from a bootleg at Shibuya AX on 12/15/2005. That was the last day of The Third Eye tour. This might've been recorded from a TV airing, but I can't remember for sure. The songs I have form that show are:

Over Amp
Slow Down
My Foot
My Girl
The Air Resister
Kim Deal
Fool on the Planet
BackSeat Dog

I've got some other even more random ones as well, including a bootleg of the first performance of Proposal at a show during the 2006 American tour. Most of these are crap quality, but some might be interested, and I'd totally be willing to upload some of these if there is interest.

Mafu, would you mind giving somewhat a list of the bootlegs you have? I'm curious to see what else you have that's not labeled. I really think it would be awesome if we could make some kind of project to construct a site, or at least a page or blog, for bootlegs. I also have a feeling that there's a lot more floating around the Japanese community, but how to get access to those, I have no idea. But damn, would I love too.

Let's see... Some of the bootlegs I have are:
(These are all recorded live by a fan in attendance.)

2008/01/29＠滋賀 U★STONE
チャットモンチー07/08ライヴ 生命力みなぎりTOUR
w/チャットモンチー
01.この世の果てまで
02.ROCK'N'ROLL SINNERS
03.Ride on shooting star
04.カーニバル
05.Wake up! dodo
06.Ladybird girl
07.Tokyo Bambi
08.LITTLE BUSTERS
09.サード アイ
10.ハイブリッド レインボウ

2009/03/20＠三崎ロック学園
ロックの学園2009 体育館ライブ
01.LITTLE BUSTERS
02.New Animal
03.Mr.Droopy
04.I know you
05.No Surrender
06.バビロン 天使の詩
07.Ladybird girl
08.Funny Bunny
09.この世の果てまで
10.サード アイ
11.ストレンジ カメレオン
12.ハイブリッド レインボウ
(encore)
13.MY FOOT
14.Advice

2009/04/18＠大阪 BIG CAT
CAPITAL RADIO '09 ～DAY1～
w/怒髪天／monobright
01.空中レジスター
02.No Surrender
03.New Animal
04.バビロン 天使の詩
05.My girl
06.1989
07.サリバンになりたい
08.この世の果てまで
09.サード アイ
10.WAITING AT THE BUSSTOP
(encore)
11.ハイブリッド レインボウ

2009/05/21＠名古屋 CLUB DIAMOND HALL
MTV JAPAN TOUR'09 SPRING ～ROAD TO VMAJ～
01.空中レジスター
02.No Surrender
03.New Animal
04.バビロン 天使の詩
05.My girl
06.1989
07.サリバンになりたい
08.この世の果てまで
09.サード アイ
10.ハイブリッド レインボウ
11.Advice
(encore)
12.WAITING AT THE BUSSTOP

2009/06/13＠Zepp Tokyo
w/GLAY
20th Anniversary LATE BLOOMER SERIES 04
SYNCHRONIZED TOUR
01.NO SELF CONTROL
02.RUSH
03.アナザーモーニング
04.Sad Sad Kiddie
05.I know you
06.ターミナル・ヘヴンズ・ロック
07.1989
08.サリバンになりたい
09.Ladybird girl
10.Funny Bunny
11.MY FOOT
12.サード アイ
13.この世の果てまで
14.ハイブリッド レインボウ
(encore)
15.Please Mr. Lostman
16.Swanky Street

2009/07/04＠Zepp Nagoya
w/ストレイテナー
01.MY FOOT
02.Mr.Droopy
03.New Animal
04.バビロン 天使の詩
05.サード アイ
06.インスタント ミュージック
07.Ladybird girl
08.Funny Bunny
09.1989
10.サリバンになりたい
11.ストレンジ カメレオン
12.Century Creepers(Voice of the Proteus)
13.ハイブリッド レインボウ
(encore)
14.RUNNERS HIGH (with ホリエアツシ)
15.Swanky Street

2009/07/17＠Zepp Osaka
w/髭(HiGE)
01.ノンフィクション
02.Wake up! dodo
03.ターミナル・ヘブンズ・ロック
04.I know you
05.バビロン 天使の詩
06.インスタントミュージック
07.Ladybird girl
08.Funny Bunny
09.1989
10.サリバンになりたい
11.スケアクロウ
12.サード アイ
13.No substance
(encore)
14.Ride on shooting star
15.Blues Drive Monster

Some miscellaneous ones from the Penalty Life tour:
("Recorder in pocket" style by fan in attendance. Comes from the same set as the Sono mirai wa ima bootleg.)

Sexx Laws (Beck cover)
Tour BGM:
(This is the music played on the speakers before the pillows take the stage. The Penalty Life tour was extra cool because the music they used for BGM were covers recorded by the members.)
Mister Popcorn/GLAY (Yamanaka)
Oyasumi nasai/aiko (Yamanaka)
Road Movie/Mr.Children (Yamanaka)
Yasashisa ni tsutsumareta nara/Arai Yumi (Manabe)
KNOT SATISFIED/ANARCHY (Sato)
HOLY AND BRIGHT/Godiego (Suzuki)
Omae ni check-in/Kenji Sawada (Suzuki)
Joukyuusei/Finger 5 (Suzuki)

Some of these (especially the ones from the Penalty Life tour) take a skilled set of ears to be able to listen to and make out. They will probably hurt your ears. Non-hardcore fans need not apply.
I'm sure I have more bootlegs, but I gotta find them. Probably burned on an old dvd-r somewhere.

I would love to see the pillows' full version of breed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQBfAz0VEZY

This one is good..but eh.

[quote="Mafu"]Let's see... Some of the bootlegs I have are:
(These are all recorded live by a fan in attendance.)

2008/01/29＠滋賀 U★STONE
チャットモンチー07/08ライヴ 生命力みなぎりTOUR
w/チャットモンチー
01.この世の果てまで
02.ROCK'N'ROLL SINNERS
03.Ride on shooting star
04.カーニバル
05.Wake up! dodo
06.Ladybird girl
07.Tokyo Bambi
08.LITTLE BUSTERS
09.サード アイ
10.ハイブリッド レインボウ

2009/03/20＠三崎ロック学園
ロックの学園2009 体育館ライブ
01.LITTLE BUSTERS
02.New Animal
03.Mr.Droopy
04.I know you
05.No Surrender
06.バビロン 天使の詩
07.Ladybird girl
08.Funny Bunny
09.この世の果てまで
10.サード アイ
11.ストレンジ カメレオン
12.ハイブリッド レインボウ
(encore)
13.MY FOOT
14.Advice

2009/04/18＠大阪 BIG CAT
CAPITAL RADIO '09 ～DAY1～
w/怒髪天／monobright
01.空中レジスター
02.No Surrender
03.New Animal
04.バビロン 天使の詩
05.My girl
06.1989
07.サリバンになりたい
08.この世の果てまで
09.サード アイ
10.WAITING AT THE BUSSTOP
(encore)
11.ハイブリッド レインボウ

2009/05/21＠名古屋 CLUB DIAMOND HALL
MTV JAPAN TOUR'09 SPRING ～ROAD TO VMAJ～
01.空中レジスター
02.No Surrender
03.New Animal
04.バビロン 天使の詩
05.My girl
06.1989
07.サリバンになりたい
08.この世の果てまで
09.サード アイ
10.ハイブリッド レインボウ
11.Advice
(encore)
12.WAITING AT THE BUSSTOP

2009/06/13＠Zepp Tokyo
w/GLAY
20th Anniversary LATE BLOOMER SERIES 04
SYNCHRONIZED TOUR
01.NO SELF CONTROL
02.RUSH
03.アナザーモーニング
04.Sad Sad Kiddie
05.I know you
06.ターミナル・ヘヴンズ・ロック
07.1989
08.サリバンになりたい
09.Ladybird girl
10.Funny Bunny
11.MY FOOT
12.サード アイ
13.この世の果てまで
14.ハイブリッド レインボウ
(encore)
15.Please Mr. Lostman
16.Swanky Street

2009/07/04＠Zepp Nagoya
w/ストレイテナー
01.MY FOOT
02.Mr.Droopy
03.New Animal
04.バビロン 天使の詩
05.サード アイ
06.インスタント ミュージック
07.Ladybird girl
08.Funny Bunny
09.1989
10.サリバンになりたい
11.ストレンジ カメレオン
12.Century Creepers(Voice of the Proteus)
13.ハイブリッド レインボウ
(encore)
14.RUNNERS HIGH (with ホリエアツシ)
15.Swanky Street

2009/07/17＠Zepp Osaka
w/髭(HiGE)
01.ノンフィクション
02.Wake up! dodo
03.ターミナル・ヘブンズ・ロック
04.I know you
05.バビロン 天使の詩
06.インスタントミュージック
07.Ladybird girl
08.Funny Bunny
09.1989
10.サリバンになりたい
11.スケアクロウ
12.サード アイ
13.No substance
(encore)
14.Ride on shooting star
15.Blues Drive Monster

Some miscellaneous ones from the Penalty Life tour:
("Recorder in pocket" style by fan in attendance. Comes from the same set as the Sono mirai wa ima bootleg.)

Sexx Laws (Beck cover)
Tour BGM:
(This is the music played on the speakers before the pillows take the stage. The Penalty Life tour was extra cool because the music they used for BGM were covers recorded by the members.)
Mister Popcorn/GLAY (Yamanaka)
Oyasumi nasai/aiko (Yamanaka)
Road Movie/Mr.Children (Yamanaka)
Yasashisa ni tsutsumareta nara/Arai Yumi (Manabe)
KNOT SATISFIED/ANARCHY (Sato)
HOLY AND BRIGHT/Godiego (Suzuki)
Omae ni check-in/Kenji Sawada (Suzuki)
Joukyuusei/Finger 5 (Suzuki)

Some of these (especially the ones from the Penalty Life tour) take a skilled set of ears to be able to listen to and make out. They will probably hurt your ears. Non-hardcore fans need not apply.
I'm sure I have more bootlegs, but I gotta find them. Probably burned on an old dvd-r somewhere.[/quote]


OK, a few things...

1. How and where did you get these bootlegs? Are there more that can be found from the source(s)?
2. Definitely interested in all these bootlegs, if not just for posterity's sake. Especially would love to hear the last two shows you posted. Now regarding that show with Straightener, is that Runners High the "Straightener" version I've heard about? I've been dying to hear that for a while now if so.
3. Do you happen to have any other video performances that have NOT circulated around Youtube, or at least haven't within the last 5 years or so?
4. Definitely interested in any other bootlegs you might have and would love to listen to them. I'd be willing to trade whatever if you'd like.

Seriously, I would love to build an archive of all live material by the pillows, bootlegs and official releases both. TV and radio performances too. Also, I have those BGM covers somewhere on a old hard drive. I remember back in like, 2004 or something, listening to Mr Popcorn and Road Movie wondering what the hell I was hearing. It sounds like the pillows were playing at a dive bar and someone was holding a recorder in their inside coat pocket. Ah, memories...

[quote="Son Goshin"]Now regarding that show with Straightener, is that Runners High the "Straightener" version I've heard about? I've been dying to hear that for a while now if so.[/quote]

It's on the Synchronized Rockers album.

That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about a live performance by the pillows labeled "Straightener version". I can't remember where I saw it. Maybe the live blog or a different website, but that's how the song was labeled.

[quote="Son Goshin"]
OK, a few things...

1. How and where did you get these bootlegs? Are there more that can be found from the source(s)?
2. Definitely interested in all these bootlegs, if not just for posterity's sake. Especially would love to hear the last two shows you posted. Now regarding that show with Straightener, is that Runners High the "Straightener" version I've heard about? I've been dying to hear that for a while now if so.
3. Do you happen to have any other video performances that have NOT circulated around Youtube, or at least haven't within the last 5 years or so?
4. Definitely interested in any other bootlegs you might have and would love to listen to them. I'd be willing to trade whatever if you'd like.

Seriously, I would love to build an archive of all live material by the pillows, bootlegs and official releases both. TV and radio performances too. Also, I have those BGM covers somewhere on a old hard drive. I remember back in like, 2004 or something, listening to Mr Popcorn and Road Movie wondering what the hell I was hearing. It sounds like the pillows were playing at a dive bar and someone was holding a recorder in their inside coat pocket. Ah, memories... [/quote]
1. I think I got the full setlist bootlegs from one of those video-sharing sites. It was Veoh or one of those. A guy made an account and uploaded his personal recordings from the pillows' shows and some others. He has since disappeared and his account is gone, so I guess there is no way to get more from the source. It was a few years back, but I pretty sure that's where those came from. I have gotten others by trading with fans.

2. Runners High is "Straightener version". Horie sings the first verse and Yamanaka does the second, then they join together for the "dizzy my future" part.
3. I haven't watched so many pillows videos on Youtube or paid much attention, so I'm not sure what is circulated and what isn't. Is there anything longed after that hasn't been uploaded there?
4. I have some others, but most are single songs or miscellaneous stuff. Don't think I have any other full setlist bootlegs besides what has been previously mentioned. I remember a recording from a radio show that I have of Yamanaka and the dude from Ellegarden singing "Missing". I also have a bunch of radio rips from the "Poison Rock'n'Roll" show and some others. They are mostly talk, so I'm not sure if many people would be interested. I can't think of much off the top of my head. I don't really care about trading. I'm just glad to share with hardcore fans who would appreciate them. (Although... "donations" are kindly accepted if anyone has those Born in the 60's DVDs, Yamanaka's AUTO PILOT cover or something cool.)

Yeah, I thought you might have the BGMs since you had the Sono mirai wa ima one. It has always been a small dream of mine to get the actual recordings of those BGMs. Since they were previously recorded and played on the speakers before the show, you know they must have them tucked away somewhere. I especially liked the Nine Miles one and Yamanaka's aiko and Mr.Children covers. Probably just something more that will never see the light of day.

It would be really nice if we could put together a site where every known recording is listed along with date recorded, source, and generation.

Something similar to this:
http://www.livenirvana.com/tourhistory/94/02-21-94.php

I've got a lot of stuff to contribute, but probably nothing that other people around the forum don't have.

I keep hoping to see that one of these bootlegs has a live version of "March of the God." Have they ever played that one live? I've see "Paper Triangle" and "Thunder Whales Picnic" already.

[quote="rockman240"]It would be really nice if we could put together a site where every known recording is listed along with date recorded, source, and generation.

Something similar to this:
http://www.livenirvana.com/tourhistory/94/02-21-94.php

I've got a lot of stuff to contribute, but probably nothing that other people around the forum don't have.[/quote]

I totally agree, and that's a nice site to model off of. I would not mind collaborating with other forum members here to make such a site. It'd be something to actually revitalize this community, and maybe gives us more to discuss as we explore different live versions of our fav songs.

[quote="Son Goshin"]It'd be something to actually revitalize this community, and maybe gives us more to discuss as we explore different live versions of our fav songs.[/quote]

I wouldn't have much to contribute in the way of bootlegs, but I agree. It'd be a fun and exciting resource.

It sounds like a cool idea to have a database of bootlegs, but do we really have enough material to be able to make a decent site? Regardless, I'm willing to jump on board and contribute.

Also, I found this while looking through my files. It's their full set from AP BANK FES. 2008.
01.Strange Chameleon
02.New Animal
03.No Surrender
04.Tsuyogari
05.Sono mirai wa ima
06.Hybrid Rainbow

And someone posted an audio rip of the Third Eye Tour here:
http://www.mixcloud.com/sinlopez/the-pi ... -eye-tour/

The third eye Tour
2005/12/15(Thu)
SHIBUYA-AX, Tokyo

THUNDER WHALES PICNIC
Walkin' on the Spiral
ノンフィクション
Slow down
ターミナル・ヘヴンズ・ロック
I know you
バビロン天使の詩
空中レジスター
OVER AMP
My girl (Document Ver.)
ローファイボーイ, ファイターガール
Back seat dog
Kim deal
Fool on the planet
RUSH
MY FOOT
サード アイ
TRIP DANCER
その未来は今

like a lovesong (back to back)
LITTLE BUSTERS

ハイブリッド レインボウ