[quote="Sawao Yamanaka™"][quote="Marekenshin"]No, when you say "kamisama" in Japanese it generally refers to "God."

Also, what I mean is most Japanese Buddhists I've met are like "I guess I'm Buddhist, but I don't really care." It's not a big part of their life and they don't actively believe in it. There are definitely devout Buddhists but it just seems like most people are a bit more apathetic towards religion.[/quote]

It all depends on what sect of Buddhism they are as well. The vast majority don't see Buddha as a god, it's only that's only the Therevada branch. If the main religious symbol isn't even considered to be a god, there's really no point in being devout or anything; nothing beyond just using their life as an example.[/quote]

I'm aware of that. I'm not talking about any branch of Buddhism and I don't give a shit if they believe in any sort of god at all, I'm just saying that a lot of Japanese people just really don't give a fuck about religion. GOD.

And Camio, you're just flat out wrong here. Again. As usual. You don't have to believe in any sort of god to make a statement like that, because the simple fact that many people believe in "God" as an all-powerful, omniscient being makes the statement valid. You could even take it to mean that he thinks that person is more important to him than God is to those who believe in God. Long story short, you've been proven wrong for several pages in a row now and basically need to just stop trying to argue a nonexistent point. Sawao doesn't need to believe in God to make statements like that. End of story.

[quote="Marekenshin"] You could even take it to mean that he thinks that person is more important to him than God is to those who believe in God. [/quote]

That's what I always thought it meant.

Mare, you are an awesome man. I want you to know that.

God gave us love.

the pillows gave us Boku de Irareru You Ni.

Boku de Irareru You Ni is love.

the pillows are God.

[quote="Marekenshin"] *fap fap fap* You don't have to believe in any sort of god to make a statement like that, because the simple fact that many people believe in "God" as an all-powerful, omniscient being makes the statement valid. You could even take it to mean that he thinks that person is more important to him than God is to those who believe in God. Long story short *fap fap fap fap*. Sawao doesn't need to believe in God to make statements like that. *fap* [/quote]

lyrics are naturally up to interpretation. It's just up to you how far you want to stretch them.

It's likely that sawao isn't religious since the majority of japan isn't and his lines are somewhat blasphemous if a christian were to knit-pick. However the only way to know for sure is to get it from his mouth. And the only lines talking about god we have that he has said are the aforementioned lines which legitimizes the idea of god. Wether or not it is the intentional is up for debate.

I'll have to ask him next time I talk to him...I'll send a message and I'll tell you if he sheds any light into this

[quote="Camio"][quote="Marekenshin"] *fap fap fap* You don't have to believe in any sort of god to make a statement like that, because the simple fact that many people believe in "God" as an all-powerful, omniscient being makes the statement valid. You could even take it to mean that he thinks that person is more important to him than God is to those who believe in God. Long story short *fap fap fap fap*. Sawao doesn't need to believe in God to make statements like that. *fap* [/quote]

lyrics are naturally up to interpretation. It's just up to you how far you want to stretch them.

It's likely that sawao isn't religious since the majority of japan isn't and his lines are somewhat blasphemous if a christian were to knit-pick. However the only way to know for sure is to get it from his mouth. And the only lines talking about god we have that he has said are the aforementioned lines which legitimizes the idea of god. Wether or not it is the intentional is up for debate.[/quote]

For the love of... wait, uh, [i]God[/i]?

I MUST BE RELIGIOUS I JUST USED GOD IN A SENTENCE.

Camio is the new Metal.

...but with less grammar and spelling errors.

just because you don't intend the literal meaning of a phrase doesn't change the literal meaning. No matter how smug you try to be you cant throw a veil on it.

[quote="Camio"]just because you don't intend the literal meaning of a phrase doesn't change the literal meaning.[/quote]

But the real meaning of what you say is all in the intention.

You also can't throw a veil over the fact that you're being a closeminded fool, Camio. No matter how hard you argue, it is impossible to currently prove Sawao as either religious or non-religious, so you have to accept that it's very possible he doesn't actually mean that.

Sawao (at least) is very religious, just not Christian; He's a Shintoist.

[quote="supertrampolineschoolkid"]Sawao (at least) is very religious, just not Christian; He's a Shintoist.[/quote]

[quote="Wiki"]The word Shinto, from the original Chinese (神道),[1] combines two kanji: "shin" (神, "shin"?) (compound words use Chinese pronunciation, hence shin not kami), meaning gods or spirits; and "tō" (道, "tō"?), meaning a philosophical way or path (originally from the Chinese word dao). As such, Shinto is commonly translated as "The Way of the Gods."[/quote]

So sawao believe in more then one god? So why didn't he say "i believe in your more then the gods?" Or "in you more then those gods i believe in you?"

[quote="supertrampolineschoolkid"]Sawao (at least) is very religious, just not Christian; He's a Shintoist.[/quote]

Do you have anything to back this up? Because Shinto is sort of a joke. Is there really a "very religious" Shintoist?

[quote="Marekenshin"]Camio is the new Metal.

...but with less grammar and spelling errors.[/quote]

i lol'd.

and then sighed at all this crap.

really? [i]religion???[/i]

damn religion.
always manages to piss me off.