golden rhino: i want to bear your children.

shurite: S T F U.

shurite: this is the "the pillows" part of the forum. keep daler to music and the fields, please k thanks.

[quote="AWPJudy"]golden rhino: i want to bear your children.
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[url]http://pirouzu.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1558[/url]

[quote="TS"]not really a translation but something before the able people do it (I'm not 100%sure of everything):

The title is "From Nagoya"

It's like their last show on the good dreams tour, on Nagoya. The same day Pixies are playing somewhere near them in Nagoya too. I'm not very sure of this, but I think Pixies went to see them play, and he says something about Kim Deal now knowing about their song. He says it was a good moment for them. The he talks about the place they played, he stresses that it was hot, and that it was a good show. He says that the Jagmaster was sounding good. (I wonder if something happened to the Mustang)

it goes around that[/quote]

-___- actually it says the pixies and the pillows were playing at the same time, and he thanks people who chose to come see the pillows instead of the pixies. kim deal could not have been there. pixies played at zepp, and the pillows played at club quattro in nagoya on 12/9, both at 7 pm. and yeah, he says it was way hotter than usual and he thought he was going to melt.

i've skimmed through some of manabe's diary entries before, and they weren't terribly interesting, so i haven't have much motivation to translate them.

[quote="terra"][quote="TS"]not really a translation but something before the able people do it (I'm not 100%sure of everything):

The title is "From Nagoya"

It's like their last show on the good dreams tour, on Nagoya. The same day Pixies are playing somewhere near them in Nagoya too. I'm not very sure of this, but I think Pixies went to see them play, and he says something about Kim Deal now knowing about their song. He says it was a good moment for them. The he talks about the place they played, he stresses that it was hot, and that it was a good show. He says that the Jagmaster was sounding good. (I wonder if something happened to the Mustang)

it goes around that[/quote]

-___- actually it says the pixies and the pillows were playing at the same time, and he thanks people who chose to come see the pillows instead of the pixies. kim deal could not have been there. pixies played at zepp, and the pillows played at club quattro in nagoya on 12/9, both at 7 pm. and yeah, he says it was way hotter than usual and he thought he was going to melt.

i've skimmed through some of manabe's diary entries before, and they weren't terribly interesting, so i haven't have much motivation to translate them.[/quote]

ops, sorry guys, 2 days afters I was highly in doubt about that and jagmaster (I tought I had read "jaguar" wrong), but I forgot to look again.

ps. he updated it again.

[quote="StevenB130"][quote="Thinliine"]For all we known, Manabe could have used a thousand different Mustangs. They all look pretty much the same, and with the excellent Japanese craftsmanship, probably all play great. But Manabe playing a Jagmaster? That's different, I would like to see some clear evidence of that. It's about time he starts playing more than one axe at live shows.[/quote]
Goddamn you.[/quote]

NO. Quit pretending that you actually know ANYTHING about Japanese guitars. Fender, in particular, are EXTREMELY consistent in their guitar manufacturing, much more so than American guitars. So if you get another Mustang, for example, with the right setup it will be pretty much the same as the last one. There's really no reason why Manabe couldn't get another Olympic White Mustang and get his tech to set it up however like the last one. There's still the possiblity that the one that broke has some sort of sentimental value to him.

Does anyone know *how* it broke, anyway? Fender guitars are pretty tough, which is why this comes as a bit of a surprise.

So he's actually using a Jaguar now? That's interesting, and a bit more sensible than Squier, at any rate.

oh no, it is really jagmaster:

"そして[b]ジャグマスター[/b]もだいぶ鳴ってきたな"

I was in doubt because I only know squier jagmaster, but I'm not a guitar freak, so I tought that maybe fender itself produced it at some moment. And I don't care that much for wich guitar he uses.

[quote="Thinliine"]Does anyone know *how* it broke, anyway?[/quote]

I thought I heard a while back that it was dropped when someone else was transporting it. A pillows roadie perhaps? Even still, a drop in a solid case wouldn't see that damaging. Nuts.

Acutally, Mustangs are mostly built with basswood bodies. This wood is softer and more prone to dents than alder or ash, so that may have had something to do with it.

[quote="Thinliine"][quote="StevenB130"][quote="Thinliine"]For all we known, Manabe could have used a thousand different Mustangs. They all look pretty much the same, and with the excellent Japanese craftsmanship, probably all play great. But Manabe playing a Jagmaster? That's different, I would like to see some clear evidence of that. It's about time he starts playing more than one axe at live shows.[/quote]
Goddamn you.[/quote]

NO. Quit pretending that you actually know ANYTHING about Japanese guitars. Fender, in particular, are EXTREMELY consistent in their guitar manufacturing, much more so than American guitars. So if you get another Mustang, for example, with the right setup it will be pretty much the same as the last one. [/quote]

BECAUSE JAPANESE PEOPLE NEVER SLEEP! WORK WORK WORK!!!!

Where the fuck do you come from knowing how "extremely consistent" Fender Japan is? There's now way you can answer that because you've never seen either Fender USA or Fender Japan build a guitar.

My comment was on everybody's mindset that everything from japan is better. Which isn't true. But everything from America isn't better either. It doesn't really matter where it's from. But you come out of nowhere saying stuff about Japan's "excellent craftsmanship" with really no knowledge of either USA or Japan's guitar making process is really stupid.

[quote="StevenB130"][quote="Thinliine"][quote="StevenB130"][quote="Thinliine"]For all we known, Manabe could have used a thousand different Mustangs. They all look pretty much the same, and with the excellent Japanese craftsmanship, probably all play great. But Manabe playing a Jagmaster? That's different, I would like to see some clear evidence of that. It's about time he starts playing more than one axe at live shows.[/quote]
Goddamn you.[/quote]

NO. Quit pretending that you actually know ANYTHING about Japanese guitars. Fender, in particular, are EXTREMELY consistent in their guitar manufacturing, much more so than American guitars. So if you get another Mustang, for example, with the right setup it will be pretty much the same as the last one. [/quote]

BECAUSE JAPANESE PEOPLE NEVER SLEEP! WORK WORK WORK!!!!

Where the fuck do you come from knowing how "extremely consistent" Fender Japan is? There's now way you can answer that because you've never seen either Fender USA or Fender Japan build a guitar.

My comment was on everybody's mindset that everything from japan is better. Which isn't true. But everything from America isn't better either. It doesn't really matter where it's from. But you come out of nowhere saying stuff about Japan's "excellent craftsmanship" with really no knowledge of either USA or Japan's guitar making process is really stupid.[/quote]

Great point. I was going to mention something like that. Except not as blunt.

[quote="StevenB130"]Where the fuck do you come from knowing how "extremely consistent" Fender Japan is? There's now way you can answer that because you've never seen either Fender USA or Fender Japan build a guitar.

My comment was on everybody's mindset that everything from japan is better. Which isn't true. But everything from America isn't better either. It doesn't really matter where it's from. But you come out of nowhere saying stuff about Japan's "excellent craftsmanship" with really no knowledge of either USA or Japan's guitar making process is really stupid.[/quote]

I'm impressed, Steven. This is the first thing you have ever said that actually makes you have some credability.

[quote="StevenB130"]My comment was on everybody's mindset that everything from japan is better. Which isn't true.[/quote]

::Chorus of angels::

[quote="StevenB130"][quote="Thinliine"][quote="StevenB130"][quote="Thinliine"]For all we known, Manabe could have used a thousand different Mustangs. They all look pretty much the same, and with the excellent Japanese craftsmanship, probably all play great. But Manabe playing a Jagmaster? That's different, I would like to see some clear evidence of that. It's about time he starts playing more than one axe at live shows.[/quote]
Goddamn you.[/quote]

NO. Quit pretending that you actually know ANYTHING about Japanese guitars. Fender, in particular, are EXTREMELY consistent in their guitar manufacturing, much more so than American guitars. So if you get another Mustang, for example, with the right setup it will be pretty much the same as the last one. [/quote]

BECAUSE JAPANESE PEOPLE NEVER SLEEP! WORK WORK WORK!!!!

Where the fuck do you come from knowing how "extremely consistent" Fender Japan is? There's now way you can answer that because you've never seen either Fender USA or Fender Japan build a guitar.

My comment was on everybody's mindset that everything from japan is better. Which isn't true. But everything from America isn't better either. It doesn't really matter where it's from. But you come out of nowhere saying stuff about Japan's "excellent craftsmanship" with really no knowledge of either USA or Japan's guitar making process is really stupid.[/quote]


I totally agree with you man. The whole concept that society has of "good guitars" is really effed up. People seem fall into these stupid concepts that guitars from a certain country are good, or guitars of a certain monetary value are good. Really it all depends on the individual guitar itself. I've heard/played some expensive guitars that sounded like shit, and I've known people who've owned expensive guitars that literally "fell apart" on them. On the other hand, I've played/I own cheap guitars, that sound absolutely fantastic.

What was said about one Mustang being nearly the same as the next, I agree with you. Most recently made guitars come off of a sort of assembly line, and they are made in sets through a specific process. So yeah, if Manabe got a Mustang that was the same year as his previous, it would probably be very similar. Similar enough that none of us would be able to tell the difference. However, to say that Japanese guitars are more consistent than American guitars...I would dispute. American guitar factories are no different that Japanese factories of the same company. They might have slight differences, but the main difference that people tend to observe as imperative is COST. For example, Fender makes some of their guitars in Mexico, and most people knock them as being somehow crappier than the American made ones because they cost less to the consumer (granted, some components used in Mexican Fenders physically differ from those crafted in the US). Other people have wierd concepts that Mexican ones are better, or Japanese ones are better. People often use stories and reviews of bad guitars to shape their opinion of a particular guitar. But it basically boils down to: it's all the same shit. You're equally as likely to find a good Fender from the US as you are from Mexico or Japan.

Also, about playing more than one guitar at a show...people usually do that for a reason, not just to look cool. When a guitarist switches guitars in the middle of a set, it's usually because he has a song that's in a different tuning, and it saves a lot of time just having a guitar already set up that way. Otherwise, he would have to stand up on stage tuning and detuning his guitar for a couple minutes between songs, and that's impractical.

I've never seen anyone make a guitar, but myself, and many others, HAVE PLAYED THEM AND CAN TELL QUALITY AND CONSISTENCY FROM FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE. Go ask anyone on the Fender Forum, TDPRI, The Gear Page, or Harmony Central about quality of Japanese Fenders, and you'll probably get very similar answers. Actually playing a guitar is usually a good sign of the quality. I am NOT saying the Japanese or any other guitars are necessarily better than US made models, though I would argue a few Japanese models (52 Tele, specifically) are much better values. The quality of good guitars DOES vary depending on where they are made. Some of the Mexican Fenders are fantastic and can match the build quality US models, and other ones are worthless junk. And lots of players hate the electronics in Fender Japan guitars. I'M NOT SAYING THEY ARE BETTER THAN US GUITARS, BUT CONSISTENTLY MADE. I don't worship Japan, if that wasn't already clear enough. All of this isn't really a fair comparison, as all Fenders are pretty consistent compared to, say, Gibson.

Guitarists usually use different guitars for a greater variety of sounds; alternate tunings, not as often. As far as I know, Manabe doesn't playing different tunings much.