[quote="Thinliine"]After listening to the butchers more extensively, I think I can safely say that Banging The Drum kicks the crap out of Birdy. Mikansei and Yamane are way, way underrated. [/quote]

True...but dude. Birdy had JACK NICOLSON.

That song was amazing.

"IKUSA!!!"

Trust me, Birdy is a lot better than Banging the Drum, but it will never top KOCORONO.

The only songs off of Birdy that I thought were any good were Jack Nicholson, Rat Music for Rat People, and Kouya Ni Okeru bloodthirsty butchers. The biggest problem with the album is that Tabuchi might as well not be on it - she's buried in the mix and doesn't do very much. On Banging The Drum, she plays noticeable leads on B2 and YAMAHA-1, among others. Hopefully we'll get even more lead guitar on the new album.

Oh yeah, Josher gets bonus points for pimping Sonic Youth songs in his sig.

I have "birdy" and "banging the drum". I think they're all right... It took a few listens for me to actually like it (the vocals got on my nerves a few times).

[quote="Thinliine"]Oh yeah, Josher gets bonus points for pimping Sonic Youth songs in his sig. [/quote]
Which you've been gaying over for the past week, but it's kool man... it's kool.

Oh yeah, I can't believe you're not my friends yet on Last.FM. Let's change that.

birdy is the better album for sure.

Their new album is "don't kill the guitarist."

The picture looks like a caricature of Tabuchi with a bandage thing over her eye.

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Am i the only one who thinks the addition of tabuchi doesnt make the bloodthirsty butchers a better band?
Yamane, Kocorono, Mikansei, Kouya ni Okeru, all good albums. But hey, when you take a guitarist from a band known to be as rhythmically tight and precise as Number Girl, and add her to a band known for wandering, dischordant guitar lines and meandering passages, the band should be 50 times better! Wrong. In my opinion, birdy is better than banging the drum, because birdy sounds more like pre-tabuchi bloodthirsty butchers. It's actually good that she doesnt try to make a huge impact on the sound of an already very talented band. It's like saying 'Hay, Sonic Youth would be much better if they added Tom Morello' v:|v

The addition of tabuchi: interesting, yes. does it improve the sound of a band that's been formulating their sound for 20 years? no, it doesn't.
The songs are shorter, and have a more predictable formula. Now that Tabuchi's there, they feel a need to show her off skills, so there's an academic requirement of having to add a short solo to every single song they write. The band is still good, it's just that their brighter, Welcome to Bubbletown HAPPY Zoo sound in banging the drum doesn't really sit all that well with me.

So in terms of the new album, I hope that Tabuchi utilizes the band more, not the other way around. Maybe I'm the only one that hopes this new album will feature the bloodthirsty butchers, not the bloodthirsty butchers featuring Tabuchi Hisako. There's always toddle for us Hisako fellators (......... that doesn't sound right at all, no matter how you slice it). But you know what they say, if it isn't broken, don't expect more out of a band cause the add an extra member.

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Am i the only one who thinks the addition of tabuchi doesnt make the bloodthirsty butchers a better band?
Yamane, Kocorono, Mikansei, Kouya ni Okeru, all good albums. But hey, when you take a guitarist from a band known to be as rhythmically tight and precise as Number Girl, and add her to a band known for wandering, dischordant guitar lines and meandering passages, the band should be 50 times better! Wrong. In my opinion, birdy is better than banging the drum, because birdy sounds more like pre-tabuchi bloodthirsty butchers. It's actually good that she doesnt try to make a huge impact on the sound of an already very talented band. It's like saying 'Hay, Sonic Youth would be much better if they added Tom Morello'.

The addition of tabuchi: interesting, yes. does it improve the sound of a band that's been formulating their sound for 20 years? no, it doesn't.
The songs are shorter, and have a more predictable formula. Now that Tabuchi's there, they feel a need to show her off skills, so there's an academic requirement of having to add a short solo to every single song they write.

So in terms of the new album, I hope that Tabuchi utilizes the band more, not the other way around. Maybe I'm the only one that hopes this new album will feature the bloodthirsty butchers, not the bloodthirsty butchers featuring Tabuchi Hisako. There's always toddle for us Hisako fellators (......... that doesn't sound right at all, no matter how you slice it). But you know what they say, if it isn't broken, don't expect more out of a band cause the add an extra member.[/quote]

The first three songs I downloaded off of Kocorono weren't that good, but then I heard Ni Gatsu and then San Gatsu and it was done man. I'm definitely going to download more of their songs in the future. Between Jack Nicolson, Silencer, +\-, This is Music, Ni Gatsu, San Gatsu, I think they're worth a lot more attention than I've given them.

I like the pre-Tabuchi stuff more at this point, but I feel that her addition to the band has prolonged their lifespan, so to speak, by changing the style a bit. Otherwise, the butchers might've run out of ideas and ended up repeating stuff they'd already done better in the past. But maybe I'm wrong, who knows. I just like having a slightly wider variety of music from the band than I might otherwise.

I think it's funny that you used Sonic Youth as a useless-member-adding band, because they DID do that, when they added Jim O'Rouke. Which was completely pointless. They didn't need three guitars for ANYTHING, whether it was Kim on guitar and Jim on bass, or vice versa. Fortunately, they seemed to ditch him on the last album, so with any luck things are back to normal.

...Wow, that was off-topic.

i think the only justification of an extra member on SY is when kim gordon is doing vocals. In songs like Jams Run Free and Bull in the heather during lives, she just stands in front of the mic without a bass.

skoolyardpunk has a good argument and i agree.

Basically. Bloodthirsty Butchers were already great, so throwing in Tabuchi was unecessary, though if utilized properly, should help diversify their sound for the better while keeping the basic sound that makes them good. I don't listen to them enough but I definitely like the old stuff better.

I listened really closely to Mikansei today. I'm going to go against the flow and say it's even better than Kocorono, which had one or two tracks I thought were a bit uninteresting. Mikansei is absolutely perfect.

I'm sorry. I couldn't disagree with you more. There are a few reasons why.
Mikansei is barely even an album. The only reason its a full length is because Delta Sankaku is 15 minutes long. This is the butchers first foray into atmospheric noodling ala Sonic Youth. It starts off with Faust, which was already in the sankaku ep, and goes through a few songs that aren't as good as the songs on yamane, ending with the good during the first 7 minutes, ehhh decent through the last 8 Delta Sankaku.

Actually I would say Yamane is better than this album. Every song, with the exception of theme, stands on its own and is easier to tell apart then the songs on Mikansei. I'm pretty sure i finished listening to the discography of the butchers before anyone else here, and I'm saying that Mikansei isn't even one of their best. If it was so great, it would still be in print, which it's not, but kocorono, being their best selling album, still is. So call the thousands of fans who've chosen kocorono over mikansei wrong, but kocorono overall is the best album, mixing the butchers older heavy rock style with their new found interest in experimental.

And how can you not like November and May? Or even September? May with it's ambient sounds of a busy bus station and Imoriya throwing down the sweet bassline. It's even got some sweet harmonica playing, what more could you want? All three of these songs is where Imoriya really shows he can hold is own on bass. Kocorono really is a showcase for the bands chemistry and talent on their respective instruments. Also, NO song on Mikansei could stand against the Mighty Shichigatsu. NONE OF THEM.

Mikansei is a good, not a great album. This may sound insulting, but i'm beginning to think that you threw this out there because no one else has heard Mikansei yet and is a suttle attempt at being different (wow!) from the crowd of btb fans who prefer much more popular albums. Being indie has never been so hard these days. AMIRITE?


yeah, i am.