[quote]Get over the fact that it's garagey and listen to the bloody music, wanks.[/quote]

Get over the fact that someone doesn't like one of your favorite bands.

Their "garage sound" is a non-issue for me. I love garage rock, but there is a difference between simple music with low production values and shitty, abrasive song writing.

I don't give a shit if people like them, but I don't. And, it's not because I “can't handle their style”.

heh. I see why people wouldn't like them. And why they would. SO IT'S ALL FINE WITH ME.

It's definitely true that some of the bands in the "neo-garage" movement are making bands like The Sonics roll over in the respective, largely non-existant graves.

[quote="StevenB130"][size=200]PUNK BLOWS[/size][/quote]

Actually, I can respect this. There are plenty of good, innovative, and rather listenable punk and garage bands, but so much of it really does suck.

Punk, in an extremely general sense, is way too focused on message, image, and ethic… as opposed to not sounding like shit. For a genre that was partly a reaction to the absurd posturing of metal, punk itself is ridiculously obsessed with appearance over sound. Also, punk constantly repeats itself, and has managed to sound exactly the same for a couple of decades. Not that this would be a bad thing... if it had sounded good in the first place.

Like I said there are plenty of good punk bands, but according to the "true punks" and all the cocky purists, that stuff really isn't punk at all. I suppose unless they are devoted to some convoluted political ideal, British, and sound like shit, than they aren't punk.

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[quote]It's definitely true that some of the bands in the "neo-garage" movement are making bands like The Sonics roll over in the respective, largely non-existant graves.[/quote]
agreed, but there are some doing them justice too.

Yeah. I consider bands like Television and Iggy and The Stooges to be be punk. But punk in the spiky, mohawky sense is pretty retarded.

[quote="TuffGhost"]Yeah. I consider bands like Television and Iggy and The Stooges to be be punk. But punk in the spiky, mohawky sense is pretty retarded.[/quote]

It gets kinda confusing to me. Every time a critic or writer calls one of them punk I always go "wow they don't sound like punk".

I've always though of the stooges to be more of a garage band, like mc5 or the new york dolls(whom I love). I have no idea what to call television. They were definitley part of the "scene" but they sound so different.

I really like the wave of punk that was bookended by husker du and fugazi.

If that was even punk.

I'm with you about Fugazi and Husker Du. I think I'd call them post-punk, but then again post-punk is a sort of confusing categorization in the first place. Pere Ubu, for example were playing "post-punk" music before punk even existed. I've always considered The Stooges to be a punk band. I mean, the term "punk" was supposedly coined in Rolling Stone's review of Funhouse.

All of these massive categorizations of music are nonsense anyway. Things would be so much easier if everyone didn't have to hear "post-indie avantcore synth-wave" every ten minutes.

[quote="TuffGhost"]I'm with you about Fugazi and Husker Du. I think I'd call them post-punk, but then again post-punk is a sort of confusing categorization in the first place. Pere Ubu, for example were playing "post-punk" music before punk even existed. I've always considered The Stooges to be a punk band. I mean, the term "punk" was supposedly coined in Rolling Stone's review of Funhouse.

All of these massive categorizations of music are nonsense anyway. Things would be so much easier if everyone didn't have to hear "post-indie avantcore synth-wave" every ten minutes.[/quote]

I'm going to start a band and demmand that we be classified as "post-indie avantcore synth-wave".

It gets ridiculous when writers are arbitrarily handing out new genres every other week, but I think there is a need to accuratley categorize music. The problems start when we begin describing music based on the whim of some pretentious critic, or a bands minor deviation from an already established genre. all the post/proto/core crap is annoying as hell but if everyone just labeled shit based on it's general sound, there wouldn't be so much confusion.

I guess the reason I want to label music is to make the distinction between a band like the stooges and a band like the sex-pistols. They're both called "punk" but don't have the same sound. On the other hand: why should that bother me? As obtuse as it all seems, I think it's an interesting aspect of music.

[quote="Catfish"]Punk, in an extremely general sense, is way too focused on message, image, and ethic… as opposed to not sounding like shit. For a genre that was partly a reaction to the absurd posturing of metal, punk itself is ridiculously obsessed with appearance over sound. Also, punk constantly repeats itself, and has managed to sound exactly the same for a couple of decades. Not that this would be a bad thing... if it had sounded good in the first place.[/quote]
Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. In general, I can't stand any music that's about style over substance.

On GNB, I haven't heard enough to make a judgement. I've only heard 2 songs, and neither really impressed me.

Ging Nang Boyz is definetly a band I can see why many people would dislike. I personally do not listen to any other "punk" music - nor do I really even consider GNB to be terribly "punk"ish anyway. I love them, though - they're awesome as fuck - energetic, wild and talented guys who have a bloody good time.

jazzcore, now that's a genre nobody has capitalized on.

If nothing else, I can respect GNB for the whole dIY approach it seems they take - just set up mics next to the instruments and play your heart out. Sure the sound quality ends up not being great, but that's part of the game. I can definitely see why they wouldn't appeal to everyone, I only listen to them in small doses myself.

[quote="clouds drive monster"]jazzcore, now that's a genre nobody has capitalized on.[/quote]

John Zorn's Naked City

I'm going to have to check this out, because I only know one other band, earthsuit, which has fit into this genre.

i love GOING STEADY!