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this was the first song i tried hard tabbing in my life, and it's still maybe my favourite one. i wanted to try this song again in the past months and here's what i got. i did my best now that i've aprimorated a lot compared to 2 years ago (i tabbed smile in 03/15/2005). And i was trying to figure out Sawao chords right now, but it seem a bit difficult to me. so, considering that i'm working this past 5 hours to finish it, and that i bet some of you here will sure be better to do sawao's chords, i'll leave this as a help request.

this song may not be any surprise but any opinion will make me Smile as it was a reward.

I'd record a video for that, but Overburn's already did it. Even if he hadn't, there are 2 two chords that are just impossible to do on my guitar.


[url=http://keitarotabs.iespana.es/smile2.0.txt]Smile 2.0[/url]

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Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:18 pm
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this is what I got for sawao's chord. though, I haven't attempted the part in between the mayhem and the ending.

[code]beginning riff:
|--3--3--2--0--0--2--|--3--3--2--0--2--0--0--2--0--0-|-2-0-2-|
|--3--3--3--0--1--3--|--3--3--3--0--3--0--1--3--0--0-|-3-3-3-|
|--0--0--4--0--2--2--|--0--0--4--0--4--1--2--2--0--1-|-2-2-2-|
|--0--2--4--2--2--0--|--0--2--4--2--4--2--3--0--2--2-|-------|
|--2--3--2--2--0-----|--2--3--2--2--2--2--------2--2-|-------|
|--3--------0--------|--3--------0-----0--------0--0-|-------|

mayhem:
|-----------------------------------|
|-----------------------------------|
|-----------------------------------|
|-----5-------5---5---5/8-8-8-8-8-8-|
|-----2-------2---2---2/5-5-5-5-5-5-|
|-0-0-3-0-0-0-3-0-3-0-3/6-6-6-6-6-6-|

ending:
|-3--3--3-3--3--3-|--3--|
|-0--0--0-0--1--1-|--0--|
|-0--0--0-0--2--2-|--0--|
|-0--0--0-0--3--3-|--0--|
|-2--2--2-2-------|--2--|
|-3--3--3-3-------|--3--|
[/code]

you should record the video. my video is incorrect in a bunch of places. you can always move the 2 chords you can reach down 5 frets and up 1 string.


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nice!

hmm, i have doubts.
in the first chord i can cleary hear B being played in one of the strings. just as i can hear a D too. i think that's what confused me.i mean i consider that he plays 320033, but at the same time it sounds as he plays 320003. so, what i think is that he probably plays 355433. and the next chord could be x35433 or even 335433. i think 335433 fits well. what do you think?
those Em and E when ending the first lines, i think they are E4 (022200) and E.
oh and i think they usually play x33210 instead of xx3210, so i just completed the chord. or do you hear sawao playing exactly xx3210? 'cause i don't.
so, it would be:

[code]beginning riff:
|--3--3--2--0--0--2--|--3--3--2--0--2--0--0--2--0--0-|-2-0-2-|
|--3--3--3--0--1--3--|--3--3--3--0--3--0--1--3--0--0-|-3-3-3-|
|--4--4--4--0--2--2--|--4--4--4--0--4--1--2--2--2--1-|-2-2-2-|
|--5--5--4--2--2--0--|--5--5--4--2--4--2--3--0--2--2-|-------|
|--5--3--2--2--0-----|--5--3--2--2--2--2--3-----2--2-|-------|
|--3--3-----0--------|--3--3-----0-----0--------0--0-|-------|

mayhem:
|---------------------------------|
|---------------------------------|
|---------------------------------|
|-----5-------5---5---5/8-8-8-8-8-|
|-----2-------2---2---2/5-5-5-5-5-|
|-0-0-3-0-0-0-3-0-3-0-3/6-6-6-6-6-|

ending:
|-3--3--3-3--3--3-|--3--|
|-0--0--0-0--1--1-|--0--|
|-0--0--0-0--2--2-|--0--|
|-0--0--0-0--3--3-|--0--|
|-2--2--2-2-------|--2--|
|-3--3--3-3-------|--3--| [/code]



thank you very much for the help! i know i can make the chords in other frets. ok, i'll practice a little more the song and record a video soon.

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Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:31 pm
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i've done a small update, in the end of the first solo.

it's now
[code]e|-10-10-10\8---8--8--8\7-7-7-7/8--8---8--8\7-7-7-7/10-10-10-10\8---8--8--8\7--7--7--7---------------7-7-7-7--7-8/12bbb14-|
B|-12-12-12\10-10-10-10\8-8-8-8/10-10-10-10-8-8-8-8/12-12-12-12\10-10-10-10\8--8--8--8---------------8---8-8--8---13bbb15-|
G|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------2-4-/9--9-9--------9--------------|
D|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
A|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
E|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|[/code]

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I've looked at one section:

[code]|---------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------|
|-5--------0--0---------------------------2---|
|-2----2-3----0---------------7-4b5r4-2-0-2-0-|
|-3--3--------2--5----------5-----------------|
|-------------3-----3-5-5/7-------------------|
^^^^^^^
|-I slowed the song down and
|-that is what I'm sure is played


|------------------------------------------|
|-------------------------------/8-7-/10-8-|
|-5--------0-----0--------------/9-7-/11-9-|
|-2----2-3-------0--------5/7-5------------|
|-3--3-----------2------5------------------|
|-------------3--3--5/7--------------------|
^^^^^^^
| this is tricky. it sounds different
| but when I slowed it down it was the
| same as the first time

|------------------------0:-------------------------0:--|
|------------------------0:-------------------------0:--|
|------------------------0:-------------------------12\-|
|-/10--10:\5--5:/9--9\2--2:-/10--10:\5--5:/9--9:\2--14\-|
|-/10--10:\5--5:/9--9\2--2:-/10--10:\5--5:/9--9:\2--14\-|
|-/8----8:\3--3:/7--7\0--0:-/8----8:\3--3:/7--7:\0--0:--|
^
| it sounds like he slides a lot more like this.

|---10-10-10-10-10-10---10-10-10-10-10---7---7---7---7----|
|----8--8--8--8--8--8----8--8--8--8--8---7---7---8---8----|
|--9-9--9--9--9--9--9-7--7--7--7--7--7---8---8---9---9----|
|-10:-----------------9:---------------9---9---9---9---9\-| 2x
|---------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------|
^ ^
| I find it easier to play | to my ears it sounds
| on the higher strings. | like he plays 3-1-3-1
| it sounds like the strumming | instead of 2-2-2-2
| is like this.
[/code]

what do you think?


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Great! I agree in almost everything.
But as you slowed the song, I sometimes used Cool Edit Pro to remove vocals. But when you do it the instruments become a bit weird. I experienced that a lot with Daydream Wonder.
But specially for this section, it made the guitar a lot clearer to listen to.

[code]e|-------------------------0:-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
B|-------------------------0:-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
G|-5:--/-------------------0:------5:--/-------------------12:-\------------------------------------|
D|-5:--/---5:--/---9:--/---2:--/---5:--/---5:--/---9:--\---14:-\------------------------------------|
A|-3:--/---5:--/---9:--/---2:--/---3:--/---5:--/---9:--\---14:-\------------------------------------|
E|-3:--/---3:--/---7:--/---0:------3:--/---3:--/---7:--\---12:-\------------------------------------|
detail changed ^[/code]

I uploaded to Mp3Tube a part so you can listen to it and understand what i mean. If you want the whole song tell me. Or... I believe you have any program with that resource.

[url]http://www.mp3tube.net/musics/The-Pillows-SmiledNoVocals/6341/[/url]



In that last section: I'm sure it's a lot easier to play in those frets. But my main goal is to figure out what are the exact frets Manabe plays, and those slides do reveal that he uses higher frets. I'm sure we've already seen Manabe doing some complex chords during live performances and I believe it's not that hard to do these, at least to him.
[code]e|-10---10---10---------------------------------------10---10---10---10-----------------------------|
B|--8----8----8----8-----12------12---12------12-------8----8----8----8-----12------12---12------12-|
G|--9----9----7----7-----11------11---12------12-------9----9----7----7-----11------11---12------12-|
D|-10---10----9----9--9/-13--13-------14--14------14\-10---10----9----9--9/-13--13-------14--14-----|
A|-----------------------14--14-------14--14--------------------------------14--14-------14--14-----|
E|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
^ ^ ^[/code]


As for strumming I had some difficulties to concrete something. Now I tried again and mixed a little, but not just to use both opinions, I really listen that he plays as you say in some times, but in others I still think it's different. Look.

[code]e|-10-10-10-10-10-10-10--10----------------------------------------10-10-10-10-10-10-10--10---------------------------------|
B|--8--8--8--8--8--8--8---8-----8-----12------12---12------12-------8--8--8--8--8--8--8---8-----8-----12------12---12----12-|
G|--9--9--9--9--7--7--7---7--7--7-----11------11---12------12-------9--9--9--9--7--7--7---7--7--7-----11------11---12----12-|
D|-10:--------------------9:----9--9/-13------13---14------14--14\-10:--------------------9:----9--9/-13------13---14----14-|
A|------------------------------------14--14-------14--14---------------------------------------------14--14-------14----14-|
E|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|[/code]

So...?

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hahaha, I wonder what song I was listening to when I made those corrections :lol:. I did that invert cancellation trick with a [url=http://www.mediafire.com/?6oy2zvttjym]direct WAV rip[/url] off of the cd, it's a little clearer. now that I can hear the guitar better I have a real correction:

[code]|----------------------------------------------|
|-------------------8:-\------------------8-8\-|
|-5:-/--4:-/--8:-\--9:-\--5:-/--4:-/-8-8\-9-9\-|
|-5:-/--5:-/--9:-\--9:-\--5:-/--5:-/-9-9\-9-9\-|
|-3:-/--5:-/--9:-\--7:-\--3:-/--5:-/-9-9\-7-7\-|
|-3:-/--3:-/--7:-\--7:-\--3:-/--3:-/-7-7\-0-0\-|[/code]

I can hear all those notes on the G string, but they are faint compared to the other notes. the open Em chord wont work because I can hear it slide down. I can also hear the low 7 played on the 4th chord.

ignore that "correction" about the strumming I gave for the other part. they added a 3rd guitar to play those fast notes in order to confuse me:
[code]|---10-10-10-10-10-10-10-10-10-10-10-10-10-10-10----|
|---8--8--8--8--8--8--8--8---8--8--8--8--8--8--8----|
|-9-9--9--9--9--9--9--9--9---7--7--7--7--7--7--7--7-|
|---------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------|[/code]

I can hear what you tabbed playing along with the 3rd guitar above.


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[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EqcNTQLEDU[/url]

could've done better

second solo was a bit messy, but ok

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