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Author:  Metal2Hedgehog [ Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:50 pm ]
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I been wondering. Have any of the pillows songs ever been written in the form of a religious meaning? I was hearing let it be. Even though it isn't religious, it was written as a religious song. It has the feel of it. The thing is are nay of the pillows songs like that? The only one that does come to mind is scarecrow and that one line. Also vain dog (in rain drop)?
They are Christian right?

Author:  Blank [ Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:23 pm ]
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Preemptive lock?

Author:  [Mr. Lostman] [ Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:42 pm ]
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They never struck me as the Christian type, the pillows.

Author:  Jomei [ Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:43 pm ]
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hahahaha

They'd be an exceedingly oddball group in Japan if all of them were Christians.

Author:  Marekenshin [ Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:19 am ]
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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.

What.

Author:  Sawao Yamanaka™ [ Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:33 am ]
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[quote="Metal2Hedgehog"]
They are Christian right?[/quote]

Of course, so is everyone in the world.

Author:  sheerheartattack [ Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:38 am ]
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"Let It Be" has nothing to do with religion at all. I vote for a lockdown, mostly because Metal created a thread, and it isn't in the KF.

Author:  Marekenshin [ Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:03 am ]
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If we move this to the pillows forum, it will be more accurately placed and we can thus enjoy it a bit longer...

Author:  Tidusauron12 [ Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:50 pm ]
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No. Read the translations for their lyrics. Watch them perform, and think of everything you've come to know about the pillows. No.

Author:  Blank [ Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:59 pm ]
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Well, now that I think about it...Listen to the live of Thunder Whales Picnic.

:dizzy:

Author:  GoldenRhino [ Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:46 pm ]
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[quote="Blank"]Well, now that I think about it...Listen to the live of Thunder Whales Picnic.

:dizzy:[/quote]

Compendium of religious pillows references:

Scarecrow: More than God, I believe in you
Sono Mirai wa Ima: It'll burn up like that, even God looks away
Kuuchuu REJISUTAA: Above this imperfect world that God has abandoned
Thunder Whales Picnic (916): God! Bless! You! Oh yeah!


If you wanna venture a guess from that, be my guest.
PS: Metal, just because an artist uses the word "God" in their lyrics doesn't automatically mean they're religious. Lyricists often use the word "God" sort of as a...poetic expression, rather than a reference to their religion or spirituality. Even Einstein, though not a lyricist, used the word "God" in a non-religious context.

Author:  Metal2Hedgehog [ Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:18 am ]
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I was about to rant about how my topic disappear from the Living Field. But just found it here. :oops:

[quote="GoldenRhino"][quote="Blank"]Well, now that I think about it...Listen to the live of Thunder Whales Picnic.

:dizzy:[/quote]

Compendium of religious pillows references:

Scarecrow: More than God, I believe in you
Sono Mirai wa Ima: It'll burn up like that, even God looks away
Kuuchuu REJISUTAA: Above this imperfect world that God has abandoned
Thunder Whales Picnic (916): God! Bless! You! Oh yeah!


If you wanna venture a guess from that, be my guest.
PS: Metal, just because an artist uses the word "God" in their lyrics doesn't automatically mean they're religious. Lyricists often use the word "God" sort of as a...poetic expression, rather than a reference to their religion or spirituality. Even Einstein, though not a lyricist, used the word "God" in a non-religious context.[/quote]

In scarecrow. He uses the term "more then god, i believe in you." I remember you posting that to you it really doesn't mean that much. So he may be pulling our chains and just writting what we want to hear. Or he is saying that he believes in you more then he does with god.

In sona mira iwa ima he also mentions bitting the "forbidden fruit"

I have heard songs that reference god. In most of them they do it in a way. But not as strong as sawao puts it. The beach boys use god in most of there songs. Heck brian wilson wanted to write a teenage symphony to god!

Author:  Sawao Yamanaka™ [ Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:23 am ]
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[quote="Metal2Hedgehog"]I was about to rant about how my topic disappear from the Living Field. But just found it here. :oops:

[quote="GoldenRhino"][quote="Blank"]Well, now that I think about it...Listen to the live of Thunder Whales Picnic.

:dizzy:[/quote]

Compendium of religious pillows references:

Scarecrow: More than God, I believe in you
Sono Mirai wa Ima: It'll burn up like that, even God looks away
Kuuchuu REJISUTAA: Above this imperfect world that God has abandoned
Thunder Whales Picnic (916): God! Bless! You! Oh yeah!


If you wanna venture a guess from that, be my guest.
PS: Metal, just because an artist uses the word "God" in their lyrics doesn't automatically mean they're religious. Lyricists often use the word "God" sort of as a...poetic expression, rather than a reference to their religion or spirituality. Even Einstein, though not a lyricist, used the word "God" in a non-religious context.[/quote]

In scarecrow. He uses the term "more then god, i believe in you." I remember you posting that to you it really doesn't mean that much. So he may be pulling our chains and just writting what we want to hear. Or he is saying that he believes in you more then he does with god.

In sona mira iwa ima he also mentions bitting the "forbidden fruit"

I have heard songs that reference god. In most of them they do it in a way. But not as strong as sawao puts it. The beach boys use god in most of there songs. Heck brian wilson wanted to write a teenage symphony to god![/quote]

The forbidden fruit isn't just Christianity (It's actually Judaism, but that's beside the point), it's a pretty universal symbol for the downfall of human beings.

When he says "more than God, I believe in you", I think he means that he has much more faith in whomever he is speaking to than God himself, which if anything else, is just an expression of trust and faith in the spirit of another individual. Saying that you trust in your best friend more than you trust in God seems kinda anti-religious to me. Furthermore, "God" is a universal aspect, incorporating such a multitude of different people, beliefs, and customs, that you and I will probably never be able to grasp even a small percentage of these ideas in total.

There's no way that the Pillows are Christian. Christians are only about .7% of the religious make up in Japan. If anything, they're probably Traditional Shinto, Buddhist, or both. Asia's religions are generally non-exclusive and build on each other, it's nothing like western culture's views on religious faith.

There's hundreds of bands that have written lyrics about God and/or Jesus, and just because they are mentioned doesn't mean that they are being worshiped. There are probably more songs that mock God or humanity's faith than there are that praise it (At least today).

Author:  Marekenshin [ Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:47 am ]
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Also there's a high chance that they're totally or nearly totally NON-religious, because many "Buddhists" I've met in Japan couldn't give a rat's ass less about their religion.

Author:  A.Fish [ Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:26 pm ]
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Basically, just because Sawao writes "God" or biblical/religious references into a song, it doesn't neccesarily mean he's Christian or anything else.

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