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[2014.09.17] About a Rock'n'roll band + 2nd Movement Bluray
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Lesser_Hamster
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 Re: [2014.09.17] About a Rock'n'roll band + 2nd Movement Blu
[quote="Tidusauron12"] But actually, listen to Kono mama koko de. This is a song where I was like "WTF?" Sawao's voice does some weird shit in this song. Shit that cannot be done naturally, methinks.[/quote] Dayum, I'll have to re-listen when I get home from work.
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God, Manabe's tone. Hnnngh. I haven't listened to Kool Spice in a long time and this was such a great way to hear those songs again.
I think this format beats the 2nd self-cover album we were hoping for.
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Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:09 pm |
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My one gripe?
I wish they'd played Ki ni Shitenaiyo.
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Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:20 pm |
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Son Goshin
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I didn't notice any autotune, but I'll listen more closely to Kono mama koko de later. But I didn't hear any on Sawao's voice during Future... it actually sounded like he hit those high notes, which he couldn't on the studio version with the obvious autotune. That impressed me. As for that solo on Our Halley's Comet... I didn't notice any flubs. The second half of the solo definitely had a different effect on it, and Manabe might have played a few notes differently, but nothing sounded like a mistake. I, too, thought that live rendition was immaculate. Really tugged at the heart strings. 
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Tidusauron12
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Nah dude, there were more than a couple flubs on that solo for sure. It was a great performance nonetheless, but they are there. It's all in the hesitation, which breaks the phrases. I've heard a billion Sawao live performances. And I'm pretty sure some of the 1st Movement stuff at least had live vocal effects on them. As for the Future live, that was very good. I'm not saying the whole thing has been fixed, but there's definitely some level of tampering going on with some of this material. No big deal. Just wanted to put it out there with you guys and see what you thought. 
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chgu
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Maaaan, where the fuck is my BD of this? This is what I get for ordering from Taiwan or wherever it was. They had 99.9% Amazon ratings though! 
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Marekenshin
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[quote="Tidusauron12"]It's all in the hesitation, which breaks the phrases. [/quote] I disagree here. Over time, Manabe has consistently changed the nuance of expression on solos, including slight changes in timing on transitioning into sections of phrases/new phrases. This one is totally a matter of taste, though. If you like or are ambivalent about the change, you'll see it as an interesting nuance of expression, but if you think it isn't as good that way, you'll view it as a mistake.  As for the vocals, Sawao has been a consistently better singer every single time I've seen him live. You'll notice that in the 1st Movement, in a smaller space, his voice sounded fantastic throughout other than a few strained notes here and there, while in the 2nd Movement, there is some obvious straining on some of the songs that are a bit high in his range, as well as a slightly less good vocal tone during the first portion of the concert before his voice really warms up. I did choir for years, and for a practiced singer, nailing a performance like Sawao did isn't shit. He's been putting work into improving his vocal chops, and it shows. I'm sure there is some reverb and chorus going on, but you can hear the notes that are a tiny bit off, they aren't all smoothed to perfection. Dude's just stepped his game way the fuck up.
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Tidusauron12
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[quote="Marekenshin"][quote="Tidusauron12"]It's all in the hesitation, which breaks the phrases. [/quote] I disagree here. Over time, Manabe has consistently changed the nuance of expression on solos, including slight changes in timing on transitioning into sections of phrases/new phrases. This one is totally a matter of taste, though. If you like or are ambivalent about the change, you'll see it as an interesting nuance of expression, but if you think it isn't as good that way, you'll view it as a mistake.  As for the vocals, Sawao has been a consistently better singer every single time I've seen him live. You'll notice that in the 1st Movement, in a smaller space, his voice sounded fantastic throughout other than a few strained notes here and there, while in the 2nd Movement, there is some obvious straining on some of the songs that are a bit high in his range, as well as a slightly less good vocal tone during the first portion of the concert before his voice really warms up. I did choir for years, and for a practiced singer, nailing a performance like Sawao did isn't shit. He's been putting work into improving his vocal chops, and it shows. I'm sure there is some reverb and chorus going on, but you can hear the notes that are a tiny bit off, they aren't all smoothed to perfection. Dude's just stepped his game way the fuck up.[/quote] He did a good job in this performance, not arguing against that. But yeah, there are more effects than you usually hear in a pillows performance employed here. I think it enhances the performance for the most part, but it does leave behind some weird artifacts here and there. As for Manabe's solo, he definitely makes a few minor mistakes. These are not changes that he has decided to make over time; the style of the solo is exactly the same as it was in the original recording, almost note for note. If you listen carefully, he misses a few of the hits. One is timing wise, and one is a wrong note that he recovers from very gracefully. I probably wouldn't have caught it as much if I wasn't listening solely to the mp3 rips (my torrent still isn't complete... thanks again for that, btw), but they are tiny blips on an otherwise perfect performance. Listening again, I made it sound like he was fucking up bigger then I was trying to express. But these are very minor, surface-level imperfections on an otherwise great solo performance. Listening to it again, I don't think Manabe's tone has ever sounded better during a live performance of that song's solo.
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Marekenshin
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I wasn't commenting on missed notes, I'm aware there are a few tiny mistakes. I'm saying that I didn't notice any hesitations in terms of timing that could be objectively ascribed to a mistake. 
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[quote="Marekenshin"]I wasn't commenting on missed notes, I'm aware there are a few tiny mistakes. I'm saying that I didn't notice any hesitations in terms of timing that could be objectively ascribed to a mistake.  [/quote] When I listened to it, there were two mistakes I heard. One wrong note. And one transitional flub. That's the timing error I was referring to. You could argue that the sloppiness there was not a "mistake" but simply Manabe not worrying about fudging the space between those two passages. But I don't think that's the case. It doesn't add anything to the solo. It simply sounds a bit sloppy. On the other hand, that transition is a bit quick and awkward to make. Going off of the fuck ups we've heard Manabe do in the past, I have to go on to say it's a slight transitional error in the solo. Not really a big enough deal to be picked apart and argued over. Listening to it again, I wouldn't even say it's hesitation. It's more like, he didn't move his hand quickly/smoothly enough to make that flawless transition. The passage is rushed at the end because he's anticipating the move back up the neck, which means his pacing got a little bit off towards the end of that descending passage. Edit: This has gotten too silly. I won't take it any further than this. lmfao It was a great performance. And this is the best I've ever heard Manabe play this solo. 
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Manabe's solo during Tonight hory shet 
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[quote="Raid"]Manabe's solo during Tonight hory shet  [/quote] Tonight...yeah, despite of having a huge bias, because it is one of my favorite songs of them and one of the songs I have first listened to...was, I think, the song I enjoyed most while listening to the show.
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chgu
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Anybody want a video encode of these? Definitely not raw BD. Probably an mp4 or mkv.
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chgu
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About to start encoding them to something smaller. I'll hopefully get them up tonight.
EDIT: The first encode of the 2nd movement show was 6GB. I redid it to a nicer 3.6GB. Just gonna do the audio and see if I can import the chapters.
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