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popularity of the band in america
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clouds
Dances with Wolves
Joined: Sun Jan 16, 2005 8:44 pm Posts: 3451
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or "japanese band."
to quote winnie the pooh: "one never can tell with bees."
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Wed Jan 26, 2005 9:16 pm |
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Replica
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Joined: Thu Jan 20, 2005 6:50 pm Posts: 1692
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honestly if thats bad, i had no idea. Just was abreviating japanese cause its a bit long. won't do it again then. sorry.
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Wed Jan 26, 2005 9:23 pm |
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thejedipunk
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recently i had been thinking about the sound of the pillows. they sound incredibly western. thats another reason why i had asked this question. with their sound, especially with songs like ride on shooting start, crazy sunshine, walkin' on the spiral, come down, etc etc, i figured that they would be somewhat accepted. even if they don't sing in english.
but like i had said before, with them playing at sxsw, lots of mainstream bands are playing there. and perhaps one of those mainstream bands will go see them play and end up liking the sooo much that they'll talk to the pillows and maybe get them better recognized over here. i just hope its not a crappy band. it better be a cool mainstream band. nothing like blink-182 or that other crap. you never know what could happen
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Thu Jan 27, 2005 4:15 am |
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terra
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Joined: Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:23 am Posts: 2624 Location: under the sun
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[quote="bleuster"] 1. Her U.S. debut album, EXODUS, was released in Eglish. She might have gained some exposure to make new fans, but left her already devoted fans a bit disappointed. I've seen this happen on several other boards. [/quote]
yeah. she needed better lyrics. 'you're easy breezy and i'm japanesey' *stabstabstab*
sawao would have to hire someone to correct his grammar. XAVIER? yikes. the novelty factor (heehe engrish rock!!) would distract from their other talents in a u.s. mainstream release. it's part of their appeal, true, but at least to me it's not funny in the sense of 'haha stupid japanese people trying to speak english!', it's just a quirk of japanese culture. but who knows, maybe it'll become cool.  they shouldn't have to change their style to get popular, they've already got fans here.
and l'arc is very popular... among otaku/anime geek types.
sukiyaki: http://www.maddmansrealm.com/sukiyaki/mp3.htm
maybe it's just me, but the one they list as utada doesn't sound like her. anyway, other than the lyrics, the original sounds pretty western.
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Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:09 am |
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Guitar Vader
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Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:29 am Posts: 31 Location: Hawaii
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Like I said before language barrier.
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Thu Jan 27, 2005 12:19 pm |
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Jomei
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[quote="terra"] and l'arc is very popular... among otaku/anime geek types. [/quote]
olo dorks 
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Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:21 pm |
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Replica
Replica
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[quote="Jomei"][quote="terra"] and l'arc is very popular... among otaku/anime geek types. [/quote] olo dorks  [/quote]Pff... old school l'arc kicks no matter who you are.
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Thu Jan 27, 2005 8:12 pm |
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bleuster
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[quote="overAmped"][quote="bleuster"]The last time an Asian reached #1 in the US on the Billboard music charts was back in 1963 which was Kyu Sakamoto with his song "Ue o Muite Arukoi(Sukiyak)" which was sung in Japanese and stayed #1 for almost a month.[/quote] Do you know if it was a theme to a movie or something?[/quote]
I think it appeared in the credits in a Japanese film, but that's only a part of how it all came together:
[url]http://nippop.com/artist/artist_id-117/artist_name-kyu_sakamoto/[/url]
[url]http://www.songfacts.com/detail.lasso?id=1230[/url]
[url]http://www.japanorama.com/kyuchan.html[/url]
Interesting articles. I think they bring up some key points as to how culturals connect. What's a better way, then music?
[b]The Kyu Sakamoto Memorial Hall [/b]
[url]http://www.japanorama.com/kyuchan_memorial.html[/url]
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Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:03 am |
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terra
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Joined: Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:23 am Posts: 2624 Location: under the sun
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[quote="Replica"][quote="Jomei"][quote="terra"] and l'arc is very popular... among otaku/anime geek types. [/quote] olo dorks  [/quote]Pff... old school l'arc kicks no matter who you are.[/quote]
my point was they're still far from mainstream.
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Fri Jan 28, 2005 9:51 am |
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omnistry
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I honestly think if they got onto Conan, they're fanbase would sky-rocket. As you know, Conan loves to find these good underground bands. He was the first host to have the Strokes, the White Stripes and Slipknot on late-night TV. So there could be a chance that we may see Sawao and the gang on Conan as early as this year. All they got to do is make a big impact in Austin; which shouldn't be too hard. You see, with America become a mixed bag of different world cultures, the general population would come to embrace them. If films such as "Hero" and other Asian movies hit big, then the Pillows can too. And for those whom don't want to see the Pillows become mainstream, well, if they don't become mainstream, then there's no hope for us to see them in the U.S.A. If they become multi-platinum sellers, then that's not such a bad thing. Which one of us wouldn't dream of joining 20000 other Pillows fans at Madison Square Garden?
At least that's my opinion.
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Fri Jan 28, 2005 3:40 pm |
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schmatzee
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Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:46 pm Posts: 2222 Location: Tokyo
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Well thats a good opinion, but i think the reason americans like asian movies is because they bounce off walls and do karate, and that has become asian's steriotype, karate guys. So im not quite sure theyd embrace the pillows to easily. If they would get on Conan(which i doubt would happen) but if they did, i think more people would start liking them, but being multi platinum sellers in the US would most likely not happen. Mostly because people care so much about the language barrier, but they forget idiot poular punk bands scream things that you cant understand either. But basically, most of America wouldnt accept them easily. Not that i dont want them to be popular, it just i doubt it could happen
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Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:42 pm |
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Kurisu
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A lot of people have seen FLCL on TV, even though CN rarely plays it. The ending song is incredibly easy to pick out, but when I first heard it, I didn't think they were Japanese until I went on WinMX and got FLCL songs.
When I got into highschool last year, I was playing ROSS because I was a newbie kid who only had the FLCL music, and some black girl recognized the song. We're friends now, and she has a picture of Sawao in her locker above the picture of her boyfriend. It's funny. But at school, nobody else likes the pillows.
Some "scene" kids say they like them, but never listen to them. They piss me off.
But, at my school, I'm the only kid who's really into them. I played ROSS at a talent show because it was the only song I could play, so instantly, everyone at school loved that song, but they weren't listening to the lyrics... until after Christmas.
People downloaded the song and put them into their ipods and listened to them, and some of my friends like them now, but only ROSS because it's the only song they know. One of my friends, I've given Swingers Night Club and Super Trampoline Schoolkid because she seemed to like the Instrumental songs. She also likes Vain Dog (In Rain Drop) because she really loves the noodles version of it (the first Japanese song I let her listen to). I listened to some of her music, and then gave her an Ellegarden CD.
The point is, I don't think they'll be very popular here. I hope they won't be. But I'd like to make a friend here that's as obsessed as me. Japanese music, to most americans, is either nonexsisting, crossdressing homos, or screaming high pitched chicks. 
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Fri Jan 28, 2005 8:41 pm |
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bleuster
rookie jet
Joined: Sun Jan 16, 2005 2:53 am Posts: 280
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I kind of agree with that.
The U.S. is as diverse as Canada, NZ, etc., but if you weren't born here and English wasn't your first lanuage, you will have to work 10x harder. It's a big country mixed with different cultures so it's difficult for the public and general media to stay foused at everything at once, but that's why you have magzines like ESSE and channels like BET. They're not the first rate stuff, but it's a step.
What's important is that the oppertunity is still there and it should only be a matter of [i]time[/i] before someone takes a shot at it.
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I think... that good music... has no borders... no race... and is timeless! - Sawao
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Fri Jan 28, 2005 8:47 pm |
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StevenB130
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Joined: Sun Jan 16, 2005 1:49 am Posts: 2126 Location: Bend, OR
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[quote="omnistry"]I honestly think if they got onto Conan, they're fanbase would sky-rocket. As you know, Conan loves to find these good underground bands. He was the first host to have the Strokes, the White Stripes and Slipknot on late-night TV. So there could be a chance that we may see Sawao and the gang on Conan as early as this year. All they got to do is make a big impact in Austin; which shouldn't be too hard. You see, with America become a mixed bag of different world cultures, the general population would come to embrace them. If films such as "Hero" and other Asian movies hit big, then the Pillows can too. And for those whom don't want to see the Pillows become mainstream, well, if they don't become mainstream, then there's no hope for us to see them in the U.S.A. If they become multi-platinum sellers, then that's not such a bad thing. Which one of us wouldn't dream of joining 20000 other Pillows fans at Madison Square Garden?
At least that's my opinion.[/quote]
If that happens I'm going to shit on a plate and film me eating it and send it to all of you.
And that's just not going to happen. Just like anything you just said. Conan would never take them on because they don't speak english. I actually think it would be possible for them to be known her if only they sang and spoke english.
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Fri Jan 28, 2005 10:18 pm |
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kabeza
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Joined: Sat Jan 29, 2005 11:43 pm Posts: 1
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hi..hum dunno, im from chile =D and i liked this band even when i didnt have a clue of what they were actually sayng xD
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Sat Jan 29, 2005 11:53 pm |
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