Steven hasn't done anything to back up his statement that the two recent singles sound alike, resulting in failure.

For the millionth time, listen to the choruses. They're fucking brothers. As well as having wierd, quirky riffs mixed in. It's formulated.

Wrong steve, the choruses are not all that similar.

Nonfiction
Starts with drums
then two different "quirky riffs"

third eye
starts with guitar line
comes in with chords on second guitar, rather than a "quirky riff"

There is no slowdown in the third eye, no real bridge, and the solo has dual guitar parts. There are also no octave lead lines or pinch harmonics.

Finally, the songs have two completely different overall tones, as noted by most people, and they end in markedly different ways. Nonfiction goes out in the typical chorus way, with "Please, please me" repeated several times, whereas the Third Eye ends with a short, tasteful solo, then a dual guitar outro.

Pinch harmonics in Nonfiction? Where? My knowledge on harmonics is very limited...

There are some minor ones in the solo. I only mention this because steve had complained so bitterly that he thought they were "random."

The most notable one is at about 2:21

I see nothing wrong with pinch harmonics used in a solo even if they arent in the song. Im not a big fan of the solo in nonfiction, but I dont see it as an issue.

[quote="Jomei"]There are some minor ones in the solo. I only mention this because steve had complained so bitterly that he thought they were "random."

The most notable one is at about 2:21[/quote]

Oh, I see what you mean. Sort of that squealing sound? How is that done?

For me nonfiction and third eye do "feel" alike, altough is nothing explicit like sono mirai wa ima/last dinosaur, its more, I think, because of equipment, engineering, the way they're making their music now, etc.. the relation they bear is belonging to the same album, as others noticed and stated on other threads. Maybe the lyrics, as I was not able to understand much of third eye.

I have to say it's making me excited for the rest of the album. Although I do not think the overall album will be anything astonishing, I'm expecting to find something worthwhile.

[quote="GoldenRhino"][quote="Jomei"]There are some minor ones in the solo. I only mention this because steve had complained so bitterly that he thought they were "random."

The most notable one is at about 2:21[/quote]

Oh, I see what you mean. Sort of that squealing sound? How is that done?[/quote]

You kinda lightly rest your thumb on the string at the same time you hit the string with the pick.

Damnit... I sort of... agree with Steven... I can't believe I just said that.

The chord progressions in the choruses of the three newest singles do sound a bit similar.

[quote="overAmped"]Damnit... I sort of... agree with Steven... I can't believe I just said that.

The chord progressions in the choruses of the three newest singles do sound a bit similar.[/quote]

Maybe thats just where they are style wise in developing music right now, as a result the songs may sound simillar.

[quote="overAmped"]Damnit... I sort of... agree with Steven... I can't believe I just said that.

The chord progressions in the choruses of the three newest singles do sound a bit similar.[/quote]

Strange Chameleon and Another Morning start with the same chord progression. Is that a problem? The choruses of Funny Bunny and Backseat Dog are the same. Having the same or similar chord progressions doesn't really make two songs alike.

Chicago's 25 or 6 to 4 has essentially the same progression as Green Day's Brain Stew and the pillows' Walking on the Spiral, yet they are three very different songs.

[quote="Jomei"][quote="overAmped"]Damnit... I sort of... agree with Steven... I can't believe I just said that.

The chord progressions in the choruses of the three newest singles do sound a bit similar.[/quote]

Strange Chameleon and Another Morning start with the same chord progression. Is that a problem? The choruses of Funny Bunny and Backseat Dog are the same. Having the same or similar chord progressions doesn't really make two songs alike.

Chicago's 25 or 6 to 4 has essentially the same progression as Green Day's Brain Stew and the pillows' Walking on the Spiral, yet they are three very different songs.[/quote]

Checkmate

[quote="Jomei"][quote="overAmped"]Damnit... I sort of... agree with Steven... I can't believe I just said that.

The chord progressions in the choruses of the three newest singles do sound a bit similar.[/quote]

Strange Chameleon and Another Morning start with the same chord progression. Is that a problem? The choruses of Funny Bunny and Backseat Dog are the same. Having the same or similar chord progressions doesn't really make two songs alike.

Chicago's 25 or 6 to 4 has essentially the same progression as Green Day's Brain Stew and the pillows' Walking on the Spiral, yet they are three very different songs.[/quote]
I never said it was a bad thing. Sono Mirai wa Ima, Nonfiction, and The third eye all have plenty of huge differences.