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Marekenshin
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 Re: New PV (Heven's Pinhole)
[quote="sl4"]It's a generic progression that's been in thousands of other songs.[/quote]
lol oh no, guys, Sawao infringed on Bach's copyright protected chord progression. Somebody should do something!
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Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:47 am |
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Aplaca
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 Re: New PV (Heven's Pinhole)
[quote="Marekenshin"][quote="sl4"]It's a generic progression that's been in thousands of other songs.[/quote]
lol oh no, guys, Sawao infringed on Bach's copyright protected chord progression. Somebody should do something![/quote] lol'd
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Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:35 pm |
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 Re: New PV (Heven's Pinhole)
[quote="Marekenshin"][quote="sl4"]It's a generic progression that's been in thousands of other songs.[/quote]
lol oh no, guys, Sawao infringed on Bach's copyright protected chord progression. Somebody should do something![/quote] Oh no [i]this song has literally no interesting features[/i] is that better
Your selective quoting kind of left out the key part of my criticism, which is that this song was an uninteresting way of using the progression. You can use a standard pop chord progression as the basis for a song, and actually add interesting ideas to it. Here, the standard chord progression and other cliches are basically all that's there. Which is just plain sad from a songwriting perspective, and just plain dull from a listening perspective. I've heard this song before, Sawao.
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Tidusauron12
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 Re: New PV (Heven's Pinhole)
Pretty much my main criticism with Heaven't Pinhole and Answer. Though I enjoy them both somewhat... I'm not gonna be the guy the defending them, by any means.
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Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:49 pm |
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 Re: New PV (Heven's Pinhole)
[quote="Tidusauron12"]I'm not gonna be the guy the defending them, by any means.[/quote] Someone has to do it...
HEVEN'S PINHOLE IS BETTER THAN THE ENTIRETY OF LIVING FIELD.
COME AT ME.
But more seriously, yeah. I think that's the sort of problem most of us have with a lot of Sawao's/the pillows' recent stuff. So many songs have the same weak-ass architecture and very little to set them apart from one another.
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Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:36 am |
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Marekenshin
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 Re: New PV (Heven's Pinhole)
[quote="sl4"][quote="Marekenshin"][quote="sl4"]It's a generic progression that's been in thousands of other songs.[/quote]
lol oh no, guys, Sawao infringed on Bach's copyright protected chord progression. Somebody should do something![/quote] Oh no [i]this song has literally no interesting features[/i] is that better
Your selective quoting kind of left out the key part of my criticism, which is that this song was an uninteresting way of using the progression. You can use a standard pop chord progression as the basis for a song, and actually add interesting ideas to it. Here, the standard chord progression and other cliches are basically all that's there. Which is just plain sad from a songwriting perspective, and just plain dull from a listening perspective. I've heard this song before, Sawao.[/quote]
Well, your point about it being a pretty straightforward song isn't something I would argue against, and complaining about any chord progression as being overused is just silly on its face, so what was I supposed to crack a joke about?
Also, I'm amused by your claim that you knew how the song was going to go just based off of hearing how the verse chord progression goes. To be able to guess properly the short transition prechorus AND the specific chord progression for the chorus, not to mention the solo, from just that bit, you must be a god among men. Since the solo cut off, could you give us a preview of the rest?
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Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:20 am |
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 Re: New PV (Heven's Pinhole)
[quote="Marekenshin"]Well, your point about it being a pretty straightforward song isn't something I would argue against, and complaining about any chord progression as being overused is just silly on its face, so what was I supposed to crack a joke about?
Also, I'm amused by your claim that you knew how the song was going to go just based off of hearing how the verse chord progression goes. To be able to guess properly the short transition prechorus AND the specific chord progression for the chorus, not to mention the solo, from just that bit, you must be a god among men. Since the solo cut off, could you give us a preview of the rest?[/quote]
It would be cool to not have to perform fellatio on shitty music to avoid overly-literal sarcastic responses.
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Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:56 am |
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 Re: New PV (Heven's Pinhole)
[quote="Marekenshin"]Since the solo cut off, could you give us a preview of the rest?[/quote]
It's a melody of ascending octave notes followed by a couple of quick bendy notes for emphasis. Rinse repeat.
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Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:22 pm |
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Marekenshin
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 Re: New PV (Heven's Pinhole)
[quote="Spike"][quote="Marekenshin"]Since the solo cut off, could you give us a preview of the rest?[/quote]
It's a melody of ascending octave notes followed by a couple of quick bendy notes for emphasis. Rinse repeat.[/quote]
THANK YOU. Glad to see somebody isn't going to get all grumpy and sarcastic about things. Sawao really ought to learn how to do some scales for them solos.
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Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:37 pm |
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 Re: New PV (Heven's Pinhole)
I wasn't being sarcastic. I was responding to your post(s), which [i]were[/i] sarcastic and borderline flamebait. I figured that if I answered your very obviously loaded question, I would just get more of the same treatment in response, so I didn't bother to play along.
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Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:49 pm |
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Cloudy_One
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 Re: New PV (Heven's Pinhole)
I like your avatar! 
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Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:42 pm |
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Marekenshin
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 Re: New PV (Heven's Pinhole)
[quote="sl4"]I wasn't being sarcastic. I was responding to your post(s), which [i]were[/i] sarcastic and borderline flamebait. I figured that if I answered your very obviously loaded question, I would just get more of the same treatment in response, so I didn't bother to play along.[/quote]
Not at all, notice that I said nothing about your disliking the song or finding it boring. I simply highlighted the silly parts of your post, mostly out of boredom and an attempt to be funny. Carry on.
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Snigwel
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 Re: New PV (Heven's Pinhole)
You didn't highlight the silly parts of his post, you highlighted parts of his post to make him look silly.
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Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:35 am |
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Marekenshin
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 Re: New PV (Heven's Pinhole)
I really don't understand the difference here. He said some silly things, I pointed them out. Anyone claiming the things that he claimed is seriously exaggerating (other than, as mentioned, the parts that were valid opinion and not just being cunty about what he doesn't like).
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Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:39 am |
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 Re: New PV (Heven's Pinhole)
But it's not an exaggeration: the standard progression was not used in a remotely original, inventive, or [i]interesting[/i] way here, and the song has nothing else to stand on. No interesting guitar lead, no surprises whatsoever from the vocal melody, chorus, or song structure, just nothing. That's my complaint, and it was pretty clear in the original post.
[url=http://www.pirouzu.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=141438#p141438]This post[/url] was "cunty"? [i]Really?[/i]
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