STFU and Look, I'm sick and tired of yall critisizing the pillows. I know EVERYTHING there is to know about the pillows. They are the best band out there, and if you don't think so, well you don't know music and you don't even listen to all of the pillows' songs. Some of the songs may be a little nasty but that isn't all Sawao sings about. He sings about violence bacause he had somuch of it in his life! i mean he DID see his mother be murdered. and he sings about drugs sometimes because he dealed crack at a young age. he lost a lot of loved ones at a very young age too. he didn't start dealing drugs until that happened. Maybe you all should give their music a chance- by one of their cds. One day, i will meet the pillows and tell them all about what i think. the pillows are the best!

lol

also, after reading most of the argument, i still agree with sheerhearattack

[quote="clouds"]also, after reading most of the argument, i still agree with sheerhearattack[/quote]

Yeah, I hafta take that side to, and overAmped, I hope you aren't being serious.

[quote="sheerheartattack"][quote="GoldenRhino"]

-sheerheart, while of course I agree that "good" music is subjective...the "All music is the same, anyone should be allowed to make what they want for whatever purposes they want, X album is as good as Y album because quality is subjective, so nothing can every truly be 'lesser' " argument is getting old fast. [b]Let me quote Richard Dawkins: "There's this thing called being so open-minded your brains drop out."[/b]

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Of course the arguments are getting old fast, we've been discussing it for three pages or so. I do not espouse the idea that all music is the same. Of course it is one of the most varied forms of art there are.

That "anyone should be allowed to make what they want for whatever purposes they want" is something I certainly do support, along with the belief that the artist has no obligations to his audience. However, as stated above, you believe that the artist has an obligation to create in accordance with his artistic vision, and I whistled for a cab and when it came near The license plate said fresh and it had dice in the mirror If anything I can say that this cab was rare But I thought 'Man forget it' - 'Yo homes to Bel-Air' I pulled up to the house about 7 or 8 And I yelled to the cabbie 'Yo holmes smell ya later' I looked at my kingdom I was finally there To sit on my throne as the Prince of Bel-Air.[/quote]

STFU and Look, I'm sick and tired of yall critisizing the pillows. I know EVERYTHING there is to know about the pillows. They are the best band out there, and if you don't think so, well you don't know music and you don't even listen to all of the pillows' songs. Some of the songs may be a little nasty but that isn't all Sawao sings about. He sings about violence bacause he had somuch of it in his life! i mean he DID see his mother be murdered. and he sings about drugs sometimes because he dealed crack at a young age. he lost a lot of loved ones at a very young age too. he didn't start dealing drugs until that happened. Maybe you all should give their music a chance- by one of their cds. One day, i will meet the pillows and tell them all about what i think. the pillows are the best!

There's no such thing as demanding "good" music. There's only demanding music that you like. This is all about people not understanding that "good music" is 100% subjective. When you compare My Foot to their "better albums" using your judgment, it is better. But there are no universal objective measures by which you can argue that My Foot is any worse than any other album. You said it all in the last three words of your post.

As far as saying GR's posts are based on logic, and mine are based on opinion clearly proves that A) you yourself did not read my posts, or B) they went entirely over your head.

Sorry for typing the english translation of the song, apparently it didn't meet your expectations Rolling Eyes . By the way, it's この世の果てまで, if you're going to bitch someone out for something like that, at least look up the correct characters. You're worse than that guy who cursed me out for capitalizing "The Pillows", or typing "Hybrid Rainbow" instead of "HYBRID RAINBOW". Nazis for life.

That "anyone should be allowed to make what they want for whatever purposes they want" is something I certainly do support, along with the belief that the artist has no obligations to his audience. However, as stated above, you believe that the artist has an obligation to create in accordance with his artistic vision, and I whistled for a cab and when it came near The license plate said fresh and it had dice in the mirror If anything I can say that this cab was rare But I thought 'Man forget it' - 'Yo homes to Bel-Air' I pulled up to the house about 7 or 8 And I yelled to the cabbie 'Yo holmes smell ya later' I looked at my kingdom I was finally there To sit on my throne as the Prince of Bel-Air.

spoiler:

JOMEI DIES.

[quote]GoldenRhino (12:51:39 AM): uhhh jomei has a BIG COPY PASTA[/quote]

If this thread degenerates any farther, I will lock it.

There's still rational discussion going on. Don't spoil it with memes and shit.

[quote="Joyeuse"]spoiler: memes and shit.[/quote]

I have to say that I really do agree almost completely with GoldenRhino on this. HOWEVER. None of us know what position the band is in, so just as we can't fairly say a group sells out, nobody can say to us that they DIDN'T sell out. This means that either all bands are sellouts or no bands are sellouts.

i will poop in your shoes!

I think Joeyuse's warning was given so that we could keep a really good debate from being locked. You are going to hasten it's demise.

so they switched labels, pretty cool, I honestly thought they were gonna give it a rest soon but if their switching labels that probably means they're gonna be makin a couple more albums maybe.

btw, i read the first two pages, then this one, and remembered why i dont post here anymore.

[quote="overAmped"]i mean he DID see his mother be murdered. and he sings about drugs sometimes because he dealed crack at a young age. he lost a lot of loved ones at a very young age too. he didn't start dealing drugs until that happened.[/quote]

Screenshot or it didn't happen.

[quote="schmatzee"]so they switched labels, pretty cool, I honestly thought they were gonna give it a rest soon but if their switching labels that probably means they're gonna be makin a couple more albums maybe.

btw, i read the first two pages, then this one, and remembered why i dont post here anymore.[/quote]

I read this post and remembered why I didn't miss you.