[quote="Marekenshin"]I think that when you talk about things that are overrated, you'd want to talk about the things you find to be the most overrated as opposed to ones that you love and see all the positive aspects of, but aren't a personal absolute top. I think that's pretty much the same thing I've said a few times, but I don't know how to state it any other way.[/quote]

I just don't see what makes the latter silly at all. It's a perfectly valid topic of conversation.

Or if you'd like a more fitting example that straddles the line between both those topics: I really like White Summer, but I find the vocals last chorus to be unnecessarily rending, and that kind of screws with the feel of the song and occasionally keeps me from listening to it in favor of other songs. But like I said, i still enjoy it.

See, I could say something like that, but it's a different topic (specifically "what I don't like about pillows songs that I do like"). I think I'm allowed to like a song less than other people and consider it overrated when they list it as their favorite.

Any kind of 'rating' system for music will be completely arbitrary. Overrated means that you hate a song which everyone else has an orgasam over. That's it. You hate it, everyone else likes it and can't stop talking about it. But it all boils down to personal opinion and subjective taste, getting a group of people with widely differing opinions even when it comes to the same band, to agree on which songs are overrated is never going to happen.

[quote="discovolante"][quote="Marekenshin"]I think that when you talk about things that are overrated, you'd want to talk about the things you find to be the most overrated as opposed to ones that you love and see all the positive aspects of, but aren't a personal absolute top. I think that's pretty much the same thing I've said a few times, but I don't know how to state it any other way.[/quote]

I just don't see what makes the latter silly at all. It's a perfectly valid topic of conversation.

Or if you'd like a more fitting example that straddles the line between both those topics: I really like White Summer, but I find the vocals last chorus to be unnecessarily rending, and that kind of screws with the feel of the song and occasionally keeps me from listening to it in favor of other songs. But like I said, i still enjoy it.

See, I could say something like that, but it's a different topic (specifically "what I don't like about pillows songs that I do like"). I think I'm allowed to like a song less than other people and consider it overrated when they list it as their favorite.[/quote]

I think it'd possibly be a far more productive sort of discussion (though you'd get the same "What?! But I love x about y! How can you not?!" in that sort of thread too).

Also, you may not see what's silly about it, but just like what songs are "overrated," it's just a subjective opinion.

You know what's sad? Ever since the pillows signed to Avex. Their songs haveb een getting more known. I bet a majority of their new songs are overrrated. Comic Sonic? It's not even that good of a song. I would check i tunes to see their mos downloaded 'overrated' song. but eh. Kind of sad though. Some people only know the pillows of their recent work.

[quote="[Mr. Lostman]"]GNB is for sure overrated. [b]Second-rate cheesy pop rock.[/b][/quote]

You, sir, are on a [i]pirouzu[/i] fan site. Heard anything they've put out since TYMT? Glass houses, black kettles, etc.

But anyway, some of my pillows picks:

Ladybird Girl
Thank You My Twilight
Gazelle City
Scarecrow
Boat House
Century Creepers
Sweet Baggy Days
New Animal... ok let's get real, pretty much all their "popular" newer songs.

People [i]like[/i] Sweet Baggy Days?

[quote="Jono"]People [i]like[/i] Sweet Baggy Days? [/quote]
I do. Quite a lot, actually. And New Animal, too. Two of the best songs they've released in the past few years, IMO.

@Jomei: I'm perfectly aware that the pillows are, if not more cheesy than Ginnan, but people worship the BOYZ like they're the second coming of indie-Jesus, from what I've seen. Maybe that's changed though. I haven't paid attention to them in years.

BTW, I love Sweet Baggy Days.

[quote="Orochi"][quote="[Mr. Lostman]"]I love Youngster. Glad I'm not the only one.[/quote][/quote]
[quote="Jomei"]lol GR and I are on the record that it's a good song. [/quote]

I officially reserve the right to this: Youngster is a piece of shit and the fact that four people (whose opinions I value greatly) enjoy it is a tragedy.

It's fun as hell, I like it too.

Pure powerpop cheese, in the best way.

Clapping, motherfucker.

I think it looks like our opinions differ a lot more on newer songs than the older stuff.

I also like Youngster. And I remember when I played Private Kingdom in the 9/16 room, a couple also remarked that they loved it and a couple remarked that they thought it was totally forgettable.

Granted, I think there are only a small handful of newer songs universely recognized enough among us to potentially be overrated, but discussing preferred newer material would probably be more fruitful than the "overrated" stuff.

It's entirely possible to love something and acknowledge that it's overrated.

See: Final Fantasy VII.

[quote="Blank"]It's entirely possible to love something and acknowledge that it's overrated.

See: Final Fantasy VII.[/quote]

I thought the general consensus of anyone with a brain is that any FF after 6 is a pile of shit

[quote="zorahk"][quote="Blank"]It's entirely possible to love something and acknowledge that it's overrated.

See: Final Fantasy VII.[/quote]

I thought the general consensus of anyone with a brain is that any FF after 6 is a pile of shit[/quote]

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