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Unbeaten games: Chrono Cross UNCHECKED
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rockman240
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I spent a good couple of hours on one battle with Lavos and gave up. I never beat it either lol. If you are going to start over, check this out: http://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Retranslation.html
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Marekenshin
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It's a pretty well-known fact to anybody with some Japanese knowledge that's played a game in both Japanese and English that the end results are far from a faithful translation. I can't quite figure out why it happens like this, but I think it might have to do with having real translators whose work then gets fucked up by editors that have no fucking clue about the language and just want to make something that they like the sound of...
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[quote="Marekenshin"]It's a pretty well-known fact to anybody with some Japanese knowledge that's played a game in both Japanese and English that the end results are far from a faithful translation. I can't quite figure out why it happens like this, but I think it might have to do with having real translators whose work then gets fucked up by editors that have no fucking clue about the language and just want to make something that they like the sound of...[/quote] A LOT of it had to do with localization and censoring issues. I'm not denying that stupid shit doesn't happen though. As for that stuff, nfc...bad day at the office, maybe? 
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Marekenshin
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I really doubt that. I mean, look at EVERY SUPER NINTENDO RPG EVER RELEASED IN THE STATES that originally came from Japan and you will see this if you compare the original Japanese and the American release. The translations range from iffy to way the fuck off. They've gotten better in some ways, but with the voice acting now, they do it even worse because they try to fit stuff into ways that sorta somewhat matches mouth movement, which makes it even harder to do an accurate translation. You need people that know Japanese working on every step of that stuff to try and keep stuff as original to the actual meaning as possible, and odds that they do are really low.
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so right now, im pretty annoyed with just about every 2d RPG there is: in CT you, see the enemies, can avoid them, and when you battle it doesnt switch perspectives. most importantly, the location of the enemy kind of matters, and you run up to them to hit them.
god damn if it isnt annoying when you select a physical attack, and the screen flashes while your character might bounce up and down a little. how hard is it to animate the character run over and taking a swing?
CT FTW.
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[quote="AWPJudy"]so right now, im pretty annoyed with just about every 2d RPG there is: in CT you, see the enemies, can avoid them, and when you battle it doesnt switch perspectives. most importantly, the location of the enemy kind of matters, and you run up to them to hit them.
god damn if it isnt annoying when you select a physical attack, and the screen flashes while your character might bounce up and down a little. how hard is it to animate the character run over and taking a swing?
CT FTW.[/quote]
If that's such a big deal, play either: Soul Blader/Blazer, Illusion of Gaia, or Terranigma.
Hell, even LoZ:LTTP will do.
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Marekenshin
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If you like that, check out Star Ocean (esp. the Second Story) and Tales of Phantasia. The battle systems are amazing. While revolving around random battles, you actually get to move your character around during fights.
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[quote="Marekenshin"]If you like that, check out Star Ocean (esp. the Second Story) and Tales of Phantasia. The battle systems are amazing. While revolving around random battles, you actually get to move your character around during fights.[/quote]
Tru dat. I'm more of a fan of Tales of Destiny for the PSX though.
Also see: Secret of Mana, Legend of Mana, Seiken Densetsu 3...
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Started a new game of Chrono Trigger yesterday. You can uncheck it from my unbeaten games list. 
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[quote="Marekenshin"]I really doubt that. I mean, look at EVERY SUPER NINTENDO RPG EVER RELEASED IN THE STATES that originally came from Japan and you will see this if you compare the original Japanese and the American release. The translations range from iffy to way the fuck off. They've gotten better in some ways, but with the voice acting now, they do it even worse because they try to fit stuff into ways that sorta somewhat matches mouth movement, which makes it even harder to do an accurate translation. You need people that know Japanese working on every step of that stuff to try and keep stuff as original to the actual meaning as possible, and odds that they do are really low.[/quote] As far as the SNES RPGs, some of it unfortunately had to do with memory restrictions. RPGs have a ton of text and apparently going from kanji to English letters takes up more space. From a programming perspective, it's easier to trim down some text rather than remove chunks of the game (and less risky in terms of cost/schedule). http://www.chronocompendium.com/wiki/in ... strange.3F
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Think it's time to play Final Fantasy IV? I do.
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So. Started a new game of Final Fantasy IV yesterday.
You can uncheck it from my list of unbeaten games. I was not impressed. Quite possibly the worst FF game I've played.
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Kaze no Mirai
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[img]http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/72551020080702_044743_0_big.jpg[/img] Hmmm... Notice how it says: Maker: Square-Enix [b]Platform: NINTENDO DS[/b] GENRE: RPG -edit- http://www.square-enix.co.jp/ctds/
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