Having finished reading it today, I don't think that Rowling would just have let him died like that. I don't think he killed him, but rather weakened the spell to keep him alive. Whatever, I'm crazy anyway.

As for the Prince, I too thought it was Voldermort. And I was thinking the book might have been a Horecrux.

Either way, I liked it. But I felt as thought she was kinda rushing through it.

[quote="thejedipunk"]Having finished reading it today, I don't think that Rowling would just have let him died like that. I don't think he killed him, but rather weakened the spell to keep him alive. Whatever, I'm crazy anyway.[/quote]

but his ghost appeared in a painting... not that rowling couldn't think of some other magical means to turn the plot around.

It might have been some kind of charm. This is Dumbledore after all.

dumbledore could have created a horcrux too out of his destroyed hand or something.... But no. It's possible, I guess. I mean, anything is since it's dumbledore. Or his horcrux could have been his phoenix, but then again - horcruxes are dark so I doubt he would have used one.


Jeez, theres got to be more to dumbledore - he never explained why his hand was injured.

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a theory proved that dumbledore may not be gone at all: for instance, the pheonix was never found after he died, and his body did not disappear but was enveloped into the white tomb (thereby no one knew if it remained underneath). i know this sounds a bit like f.b.i. snazzness, but what if he were conjured into another dimension, or carrying a non-physical form of himself (think along the lines of the spirits of the jedi's that remained after they had died)? it could be possible that dumbledore's spirit had been preserved in a physical object, too. similar to a horcrux, except it would not be used to gain mortality or physical reform. <--- these theories offer a simmer of hope ;_;

Unless he was using the Imperious Curse (the one where you can control others. I think that's what it's called) as well as polyjuice potion (where one takes the appearance of another). Perhaps he found someone that was easy to trick and control and one who is expendable.

I've never touched a Harry Potter book. Not even once.

[quote="thejedipunk"]Unless he was using the Imperious Curse (the one where you can control others. I think that's what it's called) as well as polyjuice potion (where one takes the appearance of another). Perhaps he found someone that was easy to trick and control and one who is expendable.[/quote]

that would be completely out of character. o__o

i like robotic's theory... welcome back!

although, i've heard people say it was somewhat necessary to get rid of dumbledore so harry potter has to stand alone against voldemort without dumbledore to help him along. along with the death of sirius, it forces him to grow up quick. he was so bratty in #5. -___-

don't worry knifin, we won't make you.

Are you against an ass kicking Dumbledore?

I saw this a while back and it's still funny as all hell.

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[quote="robotic"][spoiler]

a theory proved that dumbledore may not be gone at all: for instance, the pheonix was never found after he died, and his body did not disappear but was enveloped into the white tomb (thereby no one knew if it remained underneath). i know this sounds a bit like f.b.i. snazzness, but what if he were conjured into another dimension, or carrying a non-physical form of himself (think along the lines of the spirits of the jedi's that remained after they had died)? it could be possible that dumbledore's spirit had been preserved in a physical object, too. similar to a horcrux, except it would not be used to gain mortality or physical reform. <--- these theories offer a simmer of hope ;_;[/quote]

Fawkes died with it's owner. Also, an object like that would need some bad consequences (like Full Metal Alchemist's Philosopher's stone, to kill a whole population.). He's just dead, I think.. just how Sirius is. (that was worse.) OR, he could appear like Harry's parents did OR Harry could talk to him and Sirius through that black mirror-thing in the Department of Mysteries that Luna described.

Well first everyone knows the prince wasnt Voldemort, Rowling said so her self: wasn't him or Harry.

Also the painting is just a tradition. All the other headmasters/headmistresses are on the wall there, why not Dumbledore?

And though I hate to sound pessimistic: just accept it, hes dead.

I for one have not read any of the Harry Potter books but I've had every ending and plotline essentially ruined for me. My friend Scott goes on rampages in southern Oregon writing "Snape Kills Dumbledore" wherever he can, on beaches, in theaters, in the insides of book flaps, etc.

the point remains that rowling can come up with whatever she wants, and we have two years to sit around and guess and then forget about it.

how do we know fawkes actually died? i thought it just disappeared.

I for one just thought Fawkes flew away. And since when could pheneoxes (yes bad spelling) die?

[quote="lmd2131"]I for one just thought Fawkes flew away. And since when could pheneoxes (yes bad spelling) die?[/quote]

Phoenixes are always being reborn over and over again. But they can die indefinitely whenever they want. I don't have the book with me for the week, but it should imply at that part when Fawkes's singing stopped that he wished to depart because his master did. Also, if there are any X-Men fans out here: The Phoenix/Dark Phoenix anyone? Jean was reborn and all, but she decided to kill herself later on. I could be wrong on all of this, though the whole idea of Fawkes dying seems normal, seeing as she killed off the two best characters already.