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Shurite_ya_Lite
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[quote="Snigwel"]Everyone loves Daler Mehndi, Shurite, however, possesses a connection with him not easily expressed with words.[/quote]
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Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:40 pm |
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GoldenRhino
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Joined: Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:20 am Posts: 5745 Location: vancouver
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[quote="AWPJudy"]ps3 or xbox360 both look awesome, but you could not PAY me to play a revolution. nintendos marketing strategy has moving farther and farther from "create good content" to "create gimicky bubbly childish content a one-armed chimpanzee can play so we can market our console to fucking HOUSE-WIVES."[/quote]
Oh yeah. Mario, Zelda, and Metroid are TERRIBLE franchises. Who plays them, honestly? Because as we all know, games that make use of primary colors always suck. And DS? Pff! Hardly no one has a DS! It failed so miserably! -- oh wait.
Seriously. Calling a successful innovation is just wrong. Saying content is "bad" because it can appeal to a wide audience is also wrong.
Personally, I'm in the PS3/Revolution camp. But here's the argument for the Revolution:
"The new consoles, at the core, are the same as what we have now. Just with more advanced AI, and a shiny new coat. Perfect Dark? Kameo? PGR3? Gun? Those games could ALL be done on current gen consoles. They might not look as good, but it's nothing special. In today's gaming world, we've seen constant repetition. Break open the crate, shoot the aliens, jump on the platform, gather the crystals - all with the thumbstick and a few buttons. If we continue to release games like this on our new hardware, following in the steps of Microsoft and Sony, we will no doubt FAIL. The Gamecube was a failure, and people won't buy from us if we offer the same type of content.
Keeping that in mind, let's turn a new page and do something completely different. It may shock some people, but that's expected. The internet was considered "gimmicky" at one point. So were the iPod and the Nintendo DS. But alas, over time, (many) people grew to like these things, and they have for the most part been successful. By creating the Revolution, we can do three things:
1. Widen the gaming audience. More adults will be attracted to the simplicity of the controller.
2. Given current gamers a breath of fresh air.
3. Explore never-before seen concepts in gaming, and therefore have the entire industry evolve.
So Judy, you can go ahead playing your FPSes and repetitive platformers, and racers, etc. (I enjoy them too). But shunning all other ideas/forms of video game entertainment is shortsided and stupid.
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:06 am |
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thejedipunk
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[quote="Jomei"][quote="thejedipunk"]I gave my SP Game Boy to my cousin cuz I never used it. The micro is not that appealing to me.[/quote] You must have bought the wrong games.  [/quote]
Not really. I had a puzzle game I had gotten for X-Mas a few years back. It was too smart for me. Actually, it was just after I had purchased a Game Boy Color along with Pokémon Red. But then, in one of my outbursts of rage, I fucked up that GB. About 2 years later, Red version stopped working. I only got the SP out of impulse. And along with it, I got the new version of Pokémon Red. Yeah, I rarely played it. I should have bought platformers. 
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:18 am |
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thejedipunk
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[quote="GoldenRhino"]:cutoutwithanemorazor:[/quote]
The Revolution looks promising. Especially after the controller was unveiled. However, I don't agree with Nintendo's narrow-minded view of the video game industry. Don't quote me on this, but I remember Iwata saying something like people not being interested in online gaming. This was at the height of X-Box Live.
I really don't like how they are down playing technology either. Sure, there's really nothing that we can't do with the current consoles. But selling a product that is technologically inferior to the competition is just stupid.
But in someways, I do agree with them. Most games these days are just the same games modified and repackaged. There's a new FPS every other week. MMORPG's are being produced just as fast as Columbian grade cocaine. It's just ludicrous.
If anything, I'm only interested in the X-Box because of Halo's online play. I've never actually sat down and played the game but i didn't like how you have to constantly move the right analog stick to move the camera. But I love the idea of all out war against other kids and yelling into a microphone. I guess I could just purchase a PS3 and get SOCOM or someother game like that.
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:28 am |
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GoldenRhino
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[quote="thejedipunk"][quote="GoldenRhino"]:cutoutwithanemorazor:[/quote] I really don't like how they are down playing technology either. Sure, there's really nothing that we can't do with the current consoles. But selling a product that is technologically inferior to the competition is just stupid.[/quote]
Apparently, by the spec sheets, the Revolution is going to be fairly close if not equal to the capabilities of the Xbox 360. Heard it on digg.com
Oh, and just to clarify, my quoted block was from me, not some person who works at Nintedo.
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:40 am |
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overAmped
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I'm not really too excited about the next console generation yet. Once I see some big games for the Revolution or PS3 that'll probably change though.
There are only like 2 or 3 games for the Xbox 360 that I'd even consider looking into, so I'm really not excited at all about it. I saw a demo console in a Gamestop the other day and I got to see this little kid play Call of Duty. Was anyone else not too impressed with the graphics? It just looked like the graphics of a PC with the latest video card to me.
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:22 am |
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:12 am |
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GoldenRhino
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[quote="overAmped"]I saw a demo console in a Gamestop the other day and I got to see this little kid play Call of Duty. Was anyone else not too impressed with the graphics? It just looked like the graphics of a PC with the latest video card to me.[/quote]
Exactly. It's the same old crap that we've seen day in a day out.
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:36 am |
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terra
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[quote="overAmped"]There are only like 2 or 3 games for the Xbox 360 that I'd even consider looking into, so I'm really not excited at all about it. I saw a demo console in a Gamestop the other day and I got to see this little kid play Call of Duty. Was anyone else not too impressed with the graphics? It just looked like the graphics of a PC with the latest video card to me.[/quote]
it seems that first-gen games don't tend to show off a system so well. once developers get comfortable with the new hardware/development environment they can do more amazing stuff.
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:03 am |
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thejedipunk
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[quote="terra"]it seems that first-gen games don't tend to show off a system so well. once developers get comfortable with the new hardware/development environment they can do more amazing stuff.[/quote]
Not so, my dear. Remember back to the launch of the Gamecube. It has Rogue Squadron II. That game looked as though it had been created during these days.
I was just thinking it over right now. While the Revolution is the most promising to me, I still feel that this launch of consoles is completely lacking. It's like Shurite said, there isn't anything we can't do with the PS2, X-Box and GC. If you look at the tech specs, all 3 share something in common. I believe that the Revolution and the 360 both have ATi graphics cores (and I believe that they are very similar). The PS3's CPU is being developed by IBM. Same as the Revolution's. The PS3 and 360 will both have hard drive fuctions and all 3 will have an online feature and play DVDs. What's there to differentiate here? The last generation sparked much excitement cuz we were moving from raw 3D video game design to more life like designs. Basically, we were ditiching the blocky 3D. Like I said, the Revolution seems to be the only one that's bringing something new to the table. It's why it's the only that really captures my interests and is the most promising of the 3.
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:56 pm |
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overAmped
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[quote="terra"][quote="overAmped"]There are only like 2 or 3 games for the Xbox 360 that I'd even consider looking into, so I'm really not excited at all about it. I saw a demo console in a Gamestop the other day and I got to see this little kid play Call of Duty. Was anyone else not too impressed with the graphics? It just looked like the graphics of a PC with the latest video card to me.[/quote]
it seems that first-gen games don't tend to show off a system so well. once developers get comfortable with the new hardware/development environment they can do more amazing stuff.[/quote]
That's true. It's just that I haven't been really awe-struck like I was when I first saw games on PS2 and Gamecube.
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:54 pm |
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Shurite_ya_Lite
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[quote="thejedipunk"][quote="terra"]it seems that first-gen games don't tend to show off a system so well. once developers get comfortable with the new hardware/development environment they can do more amazing stuff.[/quote] Not so, my dear. Remember back to the launch of the Gamecube. It has Rogue Squadron II. That game looked as though it had been created during these days.  I was just thinking it over right now. While the Revolution is the most promising to me, I still feel that this launch of consoles is completely lacking. It's like Shurite said, there isn't anything we can't do with the PS2, X-Box and GC. If you look at the tech specs, all 3 share something in common. I believe that the Revolution and the 360 both have ATi graphics cores (and I believe that they are very similar). The PS3's CPU is being developed by IBM. Same as the Revolution's. The PS3 and 360 will both have hard drive fuctions and all 3 will have an online feature and play DVDs. What's there to differentiate here? The last generation sparked much excitement cuz we were moving from raw 3D video game design to more life like designs. Basically, we were ditiching the blocky 3D. Like I said, the Revolution seems to be the only one that's bringing something new to the table. It's why it's the only that really captures my interests and is the most promising of the 3.[/quote]
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:15 pm |
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Jomei
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I'll say this one more time.
Stop throwing your money away with the brand new, overpriced 3d systems and go buy a GBA and a bunch of games. Srsly, get the Castlevania, Fire Emblem, and Golden Sun games and you'll be entertained for a long time.
At least wait until the new system you want has a few games that interest you. By that time, you'll probably save money on the console itself.
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:53 pm |
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Josher
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[quote="Jomei"]Stop throwing your money away with the brand new, overpriced 3d systems and go buy a GBA and a bunch of games. Srsly, get the Castlevania, Fire Emblem, Golden Sun games, [b]and Mother 1+2 if you speak Japanese[/b] and you'll be entertained for a long time.[/quote]

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Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:56 pm |
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thejedipunk
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I was looking into re-purchasing a GBA and getting an RPG.
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