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Plus.

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[quote="terra"]Plus.

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Ok. THAT's a different story then. Please let them use old pillows. orz

Brace yourselves ladies and gents. FLCL is our original trilogy. Just.. be cautiously optimistic.

I've been lurking this forum since 2008. I haven't had a reason to post since the 2008 USA tour but this topic has me very excited! I'm kinda hoping the pillows will be asked to write new music just for the show. Possibly with a more late 90's style to match the first season. But I have a bad feeling they will just pick and choose from the 10 albums release since the shows creation.

Didn't see that tweet. Gives me a bit more hope for it. I'm not nearly as upset as I've seen a lot of people though because even if it ends up being a disappointment, it's not like the first series doesn't exist.

Right? Re-imaginations of something good can allow artists to explore other facets of something and engage with other emotions, thoughts, and thus, a different subset of people. That can only really be seen as a good thing, and personal disappointment over not liking a thing is pretty petty in the face of the overall artistic contribution...or heck, even just the plain entertainment people find in it - all artistic value and such put aside entirely.

I'm cautiously optimistic, and will definitely check it out. At the very least, cool beans for the pillows if they get to be involved again.

I'm still somehow worried that I won't be able to pretend this doesn't exist if it turns out badly.

PLEASE for the love of of Ba'al, DONT let them use the old soundtrack.

This is the chance for the pillows to FINALLY get a fanbase that knows them for more then 8 songs.


I mean, sure for certain scenes, like Canti+Hybrid rainbow, go for it, but theyve had SO MANY great songs since the original release.

And for all the naysayers, may I remind you of another 6-ep Gainax classic that got a sequel almost a decade later that was sublime.

Gunbuster-Diebuster

I really would not bet on them using old pillows material. Partly for licensing reasons (old label), partly cause it'd just be weird to use and promote the music of an *active* band from an era of their career a decade and a half ago.

FLCL started airing in 2000. Little Busters was released in 1998, Runners High and Happy Bivouac both came out in 1999. It made total sense from a promotional/business perspective to use those songs.

Pulling from the last few albums in an FLCL sequel would be the most logical thing to do, I don't know why we'd expect anything else. Ignoring years of recent pop rock by the pillows in favor of "old classics" would also be sort of insulting to the band. Remember how Sawao always says his favorite pillows song is whatever the new single is? Same logic here.

[quote="Marekenshin"]Right? Re-imaginations of something good can allow artists to explore other facets of something and engage with other emotions, thoughts, and thus, a different subset of people. That can only really be seen as a good thing, and personal disappointment over not liking a thing is pretty petty in the face of the overall artistic contribution...or heck, even just the plain entertainment people find in it - all artistic value and such put aside entirely.[/quote]

We can't pretend that sequels don't impact the reputation of the original, though. Rocky Balboa and Freddy Krueger called.

And not liking something is petty because other people might like it? Not following at all, especially "all artistic value and such put aside entirely." Isn't that... the one thing we should definitely [i]not[/i] be putting aside?

FLCL was lightning in a bottle at the height of Gainax's creativity. Part of what made it amazing was how much it accomplished as a brief OVA. There's not a bloated scene in the whole series, yet it manages to be and do so much. Now we're tripling the length of the overall story (which, as far as anyone was concerned for the past 15 years, was already finished) because... well, why exactly?

FLCL will always be on a shortlist of my favorite animated series, and I am absolutely interested in seeing this. I'm skeptical but willing to see whether it has any merit. It very well might. But I'm not going to set aside my judgments just because the work helps the pillows or anyone else expand their overseas fan base.

[quote]Pulling from the last few albums in an FLCL sequel would be the most logical thing to do, I don't know why we'd expect anything else. Ignoring years of recent pop rock by the pillows in favor of "old classics" would also be sort of insulting to the band. Remember how Sawao always says his favorite pillows song is whatever the new single is? Same logic here.[/quote]

Expect is the wrong word. Hope. I'm hoping the director prefers that era of pillows, which absolutely suited FLCL better than the newer sounds would. Does anybody deny that? Basically what you're saying is "They'll do the right thing for marketing" and I'm hoping they'll do the right thing artistically.

It's also hardly insulting to the band to choose selectively from their massive discography. This isn't a pillows PV. Directors [i]usually[/i] pick music that's [i]right for the work[/i], not just whatever new single an artist is hoping to promote in [current year]. When studios wanted to use REM, they went for Man on the Moon or It's the End of the World, regardless of whatever was on REM's latest album.

edit: also, re: psykodrak and Gunbuster/Diebuster. That's actually a pretty good example of an unnecessary sequel that paled compared to the original. Definitely wouldn't call Diebuster sublime. Thankfully, though, the team working on Diebuster was excellent, so even though it wasn't up to its predecessor's level, it was a worthy watch nonetheless. And it was distinguished from the original enough that it stands almost separately. Maybe that's what we'll get with FLCL's sequel.

[quote="Jomei"]not liking something is petty because other people might like it? Not following at all.[/quote]

"Personal disappointment over not liking a thing is pretty petty in the face of the overall artistic contribution."

Sorry, that was perhaps poorly worded, petty as in "small, meaningless, pointless." It means little in comparison for what the thing does for people who do like it. This discussion we're having has been well-trod by every comic book fandom ever, time after time with every reboot, alternate universe, sequel, prequel, etc. Not everyone is going to like when what they consider to be a closed book gets re-opened, and that's fine.

It's still fantastic that these things happen, regardless of how many of us end up disappointed. For at least a few people out there, and let's be honest, for probably a LOT of people out there, regardless of how us old-timers end up feeling about how it stacks up compared to the original, this is going to be an enjoyable work. It has all the ingredients for a kick-ass recipe shaping up. Will it be the FLCL that introduced many here to the pillows? Nope. Will it still probably be pretty cool? Yeah, I think so. I don't know how much I'll enjoy it or even what to expect, but I know enough of the elements involved to think there's no reason to write it off, and plenty of reason to be pleasantly optimistic, even if all that optimism is towards is the idea of some new kids finding out about the pillows and then maybe stumbling backwards to the earlier works.

TL;DR: I'm just trying to express some positive sentiment hurr, carry on carrying on and apologies for any poorly-expressed sentiment.

I'm optimistic after hearing about some of the original creative team's involvement. Hopefully the pillows will be brought in perhaps for a new ending and/or or opening theme, and they'll dip into their older discography for most of the BGM.

I'm just saying there's a lot to be worried about as a fan of the original. For example, one post I kept seeing thrown in my face on tumblr was declaring that the author wanted to see Ninamori's story fleshed out more. I'd rather they not. Ninamori has become my favorite character, and all you need to know is in the original. I'm reading Salinger quite a bit right now, so this point in particular stuck with me, as he was embroiled in a lawsuit near the end of his life to stop the publication of a book telling about his Catcher in the Rye character's adult life. It was very important to him that this not come out and infringe on his character or attempt to expand his life, as he truly felt he told this character's story in that novel. There wasn't more to tell.

FLCL to me is like an excellent short story or novella. It may only be a snippet in these character's lives, but it's complete in and of itself. I won't lie and say I'm not curious to see the characters again, but because their arcs were already concluded in the original, I'm afraid any mishandling at all is going to make the sequel ring all the more hollow. FLCL is a story about adolescence. I cringe violently at the thought of later life Naota. His entire essence as a character is childhood on the verge of puberty.

Again, excited, nervous, cautiously optimistic. I just hope to the anime Gods that the creators actually have another story they've been dying to tell rather than economics being the driving force.

Are they even confirmed getting the pillows yet or just hoping to because if not, maybe it'd be a good chance to showcase the music of another Japanese rock group.

Also, a shitty sequel/prequel can ruin the reputation of a franchise for some but it doesn't ruin the enjoyment of the old work for people who aren't, to use the term again, petty about it. Star Wars is the ultimate example of this. I know this is quite the controversial opinion so please do hold with me because while some of you undoubtedly are aware of this segment of the Star Wars fandom holding this line of thought on the prequels, some of you may not be aware and the following information may shock you, so, please, if you are faint of heart, step away from the computer: some fans of Star Wars think the prequels are not as good as the original trilogy. Yet that hardly stops people from stimulating their genitals at the thought of how much they love the episodes 4-6. It makes people wary of further releases, as in the case of the Force Uh...Wakens but it's not always the complete death of a franchise (albeit Star Wars is Star Wars and a shitty FLCL season 2 and 3 will most likely mean no further collaborations between Adult Swim and IG 88 Productions or whatever the studio is called.

And hey, think of it this way, if the new one sucks but a bunch of kids end up liking it, you can be a smug asshole on the internet to them and shit on their happiness. There's always a [url=http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1045658/]silver lining[/url].