I've heard some sad news in the past few hours. Satoshi Kon, the genius behind Paprika, Tokyo Godfathers, and Paranoia Agent has passed away by the hands of cancer at age 47. To me, this is a true tragedy for the anime world. Without him, there is one less fighter in the battle against moe.

HE DIED? REALLY?
I recently saw paprika. It was a great anime. Really strange and awesome. He died though. I loved paranoia agent.

At first I thought he invented a spice, which would have been pretty damn cool - but I doubt anyone who had a hand in creating paprika is alive today. I've never heard of them (Paranoia Agent sounds familiar, though), but now, I suppose those are the titles of Japanese cartoons. However, I still have no idea who Moe is. Explain.

Also, why is this person noteworthy in particular?

...Well shit.

[quote="sheerheartattack"]At first I thought he invented a spice, which would have been pretty damn cool - but I doubt anyone who had a hand in creating paprika is alive today. I've never heard of them (Paranoia Agent sounds familiar, though), but now, I suppose those are the titles of Japanese cartoons. However, I still have no idea who Moe is. Explain.

Also, why is this person noteworthy in particular?[/quote]
Nice troll bait. Did you learn that in law school, Paper Chase? Wouldn't your time be better spent reading up on the State of NJ vs. the cast of the Jersey Shore?

As for Satoshi Kon, I quite enjoyed Paranoia Agent. It's a bummer to hear he's passed on.

I don't think it is out of line to request further information about esoteric persons of note. I mean, I could read Wikipedia and find out everything he has done, but it doesn't exactly underline in bold writing, "[b][u]THIS IS WHY HE'S ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT[/u][/b]," aside from "He made cartoons that most people have never heard of, and a lot of people liked them." Nothing about the entry suggests that he is much of a legend of anything. However, I [i]could[/i] tell you that his death came less than two months before his 47th birthday.

I mean, I could say, "Nolan Ryan is famous because he was good at baseball," or I could tell you that he's one of the greatest pitchers to ever play baseball, and the world leader in strikeouts and no-hitters - and he could throw the ball really fucking hard. Except nobody needs an explanation as to who Nolan Ryan is. However, some random Japanese guy - I think that warrants an explanation, especially when you throw around names like Moe, as if somebody is supposed to either know who that is, or be able to Google him.

Ah, okay, so, when you die and people ask me why you're particularly important, I can say "He was an [i]extra special[/i] prick on an internet web forum."

"At first, I thought he was a sheer heart attack, which would have been pretty damn inconvenient - I'm only in my twenties. I've never heard of him (Golden Rhino sounds familiar, though), but now, I suppose he was a poster on an internet forum. However, I still have no idea who Sawao is. Explain.

Also, why is he noteworthy in pardickular?"

Do you see that? Do you see what I did there? I took what you said and turned it into something else.

Seeing as how you're smart enough to be working on your postgrad degree, I assume you're smart enough to know it's kind of rude to try and make xD LOL SO FUNNY I TROL U posts in a thread about someone who died. Whether it was Satoshi Kon who died, Stan Lee, or anyone else, it's still a dick move and I know you're completely aware of that. If you were genuinely interested in finding out "who" moe is, you could've googled it or asked in the anime thread. Instead, you're trying to play off your shitty trolling. Although maybe you succeeded since you made me type out all these words! Wow, good job! You've successfully derailed a thread into being about you and your asshole attitude yet again. Perhaps you'll be the fourth most remembered troll on Instant Music.

If somebody made a thread about me being a legendary figure in the esoteric world of Icelandic literature, prominent in the battle against Kitten (would you really Google "kitten" in the off chance you'll find something unrelated to a young cat?), then yeah - I think it would be appropriate to ask for more details, if you were unfamiliar with my work in that regard. Sure - if [i]Stan Lee[/i] had died, such a response might be ignorant - although the world of comics [i]is[/i] to some degree esoteric...and that, nowhere [i]near[/i] as esoteric as foreign cartoons. Hell, even if this thread were about someone as well known to Western audiences as Tex Avery, it would be ridiculous not to provide details of his life's work in a thread eulogizing him, or at least not to expect others to inquire about those details. Perhaps, if it were someone so well known as Michael Jackson, a "let me Google that for you" would be in order. However, I think that standard is pretty high, and if I don't think Tex Avery belongs in that category, then surely his Japanese counterpart doesn't belong there (even if we assumed that Satoshi Kon were anywhere even remotely near as legendary in the East as Avery is in the West).

Anyway, your response is inordinately hostile. Unfortunately, instead of answering my direct and simple request for information, you've decided to derail this thread with quite ironic accusations of trolling and assholery. Elaborating upon what qualifies Satoshi Kon as a legend is [i]exactly[/i] what a eulogy thread is supposed to be about. So is introducing his work to those who may be unfamiliar with him. A eulogy thread is not, "If you know his work intimately, you may post about your familiarity with him - but if not, this thread is irrelevant to you." You clearly fail to recognize that.

If you wish to inform the forum about Satoshi Kon, and what makes him noteworthy, then by all means - discuss his life's work and what it means to you, and what makes him stand out from the crowd. However, I suggest you withhold any further senseless indictments.

tl;dr: You're kind of a dick. I did not say anything disrespectful or out of line, and I certainly did not say anything hostile, rude, or offensive. Elaborate upon his achievements, or kindly silence yourself.

[quote="sheerheartattack"]If somebody made a thread about me being a legendary figure in the esoteric world of Icelandic literature, prominent in the battle against Kitten (would you really Google "kitten" in the off chance you'll find something unrelated to a young cat?), then yeah - I think it would be appropriate to ask for more details, if you were unfamiliar with my work in that regard. Sure - if [i]Stan Lee[/i] had died, such a response might be ignorant - although the world of comics [i]is[/i] to some degree esoteric...and that, nowhere [i]near[/i] as esoteric as foreign cartoons. Hell, even if this thread were about someone as well known to Western audiences as Tex Avery, it would be ridiculous not to provide details of his life's work in a thread eulogizing him, or at least not to expect others to inquire about those details. Perhaps, if it were someone so well known as Michael Jackson, a "let me Google that for you" would be in order. However, I think that standard is pretty high, and if I don't think Tex Avery belongs in that category, then surely his Japanese counterpart doesn't belong there (even if we assumed that Satoshi Kon were anywhere even remotely near as legendary in the East as Avery is in the West).

Anyway, your response is inordinately hostile. Unfortunately, instead of answering my direct and simple request for information, you've decided to derail this thread with quite ironic accusations of trolling and assholery. Elaborating upon what qualifies Satoshi Kon as a legend is [i]exactly[/i] what a eulogy thread is supposed to be about. So is introducing his work to those who may be unfamiliar with him. A eulogy thread is not, "If you know his work intimately, you may post about your familiarity with him - but if not, this thread is irrelevant to you." You clearly fail to recognize that.

If you wish to inform the forum about Satoshi Kon, and what makes him noteworthy, then by all means - discuss his life's work and what it means to you, and what makes him stand out from the crowd. However, I suggest you withhold any further senseless indictments.

tl;dr: You're kind of a dick. I did not say anything disrespectful or out of line, and I certainly did not say anything hostile, [size=150][b]rude[/b][/size], or offensive. Elaborate upon his achievements, or kindly silence yourself.[/quote]

[quote="sheerheartattack"]At first I thought he invented a spice, which would have been pretty damn cool - but I doubt anyone who had a hand in creating paprika is alive today. I've never heard of them (Paranoia Agent sounds familiar, though), but now, I suppose those are the titles of Japanese cartoons. However, I still have no idea who Moe is. Explain.

Also, why is this person noteworthy in particular?[/quote]

That post sounds rude and disrespectful to me.

That would be like me saying "I don't know who Will ferrel is. Did he raise ferrets or something?" Or ssayin Who was Michael Jackson ? Is he that guy who likes to jack stuff? *was going to say off but eww >.>*

Paprika was too weird for me. The fat weirdo that fucked everything up got the hot bitch? What? But yea, young deaths suck; fuck cancer etc.

[quote="h2orowe"]If you were genuinely interested in finding out "who" moe is, you could've googled it or asked in the anime thread. Instead, you're trying to play off your shitty trolling.[/quote] Does Moe have a last name? I assume a google search is going to come up with more than one Moe. That's why I personally didn't bother googling him.

[quote="rockman240"][quote="h2orowe"]If you were genuinely interested in finding out "who" moe is, you could've googled it or asked in the anime thread. Instead, you're trying to play off your shitty trolling.[/quote] Does Moe have a last name? I assume a google search is going to come up with more than one Moe. That's why I personally didn't bother googling him.[/quote]

[img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_O23cNNQsB88/SC3HNc7fYTI/AAAAAAAABug/o9gkfc_tLFI/s400/moes.gif[/img]

Because someone was going to do it eventually.

That's one ugly picture of Moe

I'm pretty sure Alucard isn't talking about a person named Moe, though.

ughhhhhhhhh...

Just answer the damn question.

He was a famous director. His works are mostly highly praised. He is noteworthy for mixing darker themes and surreal fantasy into modern settings, with high emphasis on the mental stability/instability of the characters. His characters are very unique from one show to the next, and even bit parts tend to feel fresh. His noteworthy criticisms are his portrayals of obese people; Throughout his work he does seem to trend towards particularly unpleasant overweight characters.

The Moe' bit was superfluous conjecture. Moe' is basically a slang term for particular characters or entire series where the characters are intended to mainly evoke possessive or protective feelings. Typically these characters are young girls and early teens and they are intentionally rather one-dimensional. There is a market for it, and a market for those who would link it to sexual fantasy (lolicon). The problem is that people are increasingly feeling that the lines are blurring between the two in the anime world. What any of that has to do with Satoshi Kon, I don't know.

Two bits here.

1) H20's being totally out of line here. In the world of anime, Satoshi Kon is a pretty big name. Not on Miyazaki level, but...definitely up there. Still, we're talking about the [i]world of anime[/i] - so getting hostile toward Sheer is totally silly. If he made the post about like, Michael Jackson, The Rolling Stones, Star Wars, or Oprah Winfrey, I'd understand the freakout. And the irritation at Sheer potentially "trolling" the thread with his ignorance. But you're being sooort of a cock here, man.

Satoshi Kon isn't your fricking grandma, H20. He has no personal relation to you, and, I'm gonna go out on a limb here, I doubt Millenium Actress or Tokyo Godfathers had some profound impact on your life. And let's admit it, Paprika was beautiful but nonsensical intellectual wankfest.

2) Alucard, don't you for a MINUTE pretend you're sad about Kon's death because he's a "fighter in the battle against moe." You loved K-ON and you know it. You live for the kawaii-neko-chan :3 desu. Be true to yourself.