[quote="GoldenRhino"]I feel like we need a "list the three top celebrities you'd most want to bang" thread...
Then we can really see who's on the ball, and who's not.[/quote]

If only there were a function of the forum whereby one could enact that.

[quote="GoldenRhino"]I feel like we need a "list the three top celebrities you'd most want to bang" thread...
Then we can really see who's on the ball, and who's not.[/quote]

I'm with GR, this is a good/bad idea but whatever. Not like anything else is going on around here.

[img]http://www.sadanduseless.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/554.jpg[/img]

i'm actually having trouble figuring out who is who.

As a major fan of girls with light skin and black hair, I approve of this image.

[quote="Utsuseru"][img]IMAGE[/img][/quote]

I like that picture.

ANYWAYS

I finally saw the movie the other day. It's a lot more interesting than what I would have expected.


[quote="Octave_Flow"][quote="Revol"]Really good movie, fully met my expectations. I ended up feeling sorry for the guy. And Zooey is just...[/quote]

Yeah....
But what the fuck was up with her character?.... [/quote]

I felt sorry for Summer. In the end it wasn't really her fault she went with the other guy. I mean in the beginning we learn that Summer's parents divorced and that caused her to be traumatized. She felt she had to put up "walls" so that no one would hurt her. She didn't believed in love and that anyone will last together forever, since her parents had divorced when she was young. Summer didn't want a relationship that was "serious." Later on we learn that she was falling for Tom. She was beginning to "open up" to him. She was dropping her walls down and letting tom in. All an all we watch the movie from Tom's point of view. How when they are in bed together and she has let him into her apartment for the first time. You see all these things that Summer has. They are all "childish" and "sad" The image of ringo had him depicted as "sad" During all that time we see Tom just thinking "Oh my god, She is letting me in her house. What does this say? She REALLY trusts me. So she must love me! YES!"

When Summer is telling Tom about her dream and stories he notices that those stories and dreams aren't something one would normally have. That you have to "experience and grow them" Or something like that. He didn't comfort her or asked her more about them. He just had that thought that Summer was letting him in and he was enjoying it. Later on we see them at the movies and she starts crying. Tom asks Summer what's wrong and she just walks away and says she's just being dumb. Tom could of gone towards her and talked to her about it. Telling Summer that she isn't being dumb. Then he could of asked her why she cried and what it meant. In my opinion it might of just been that Summer cried because of how she missed her parents and how the divorce was to her. She found it "sad" that she lost that. Then when they had their first fight and you see an clip of both of them waiting by the phone. Summer was waiting for Tom to call and ask her stuff. Tom was waiting for the same. Tom could have called her and asked her "why did you flip out?" And things like that. Summer was just scared. Afraid of being hurt.

When Summer tells Tom that she found someone else Tom was WTF HOW COULD YOU BITCH!
In reality, it might of been that the other guy was just more there for Summer than Tom was. Summer needed someone to help her seeing as she was feeling lonely. Someone that would and could comfort her. Tom didn't do that. He didn't notice those little bits of Summer. At the same time. Tom was also childish. He wanted to stay and work at the Card thing while the other guy might of had a way better Job. He might of been more "mature" and understandable of Summer. I mean, Summer must of REALLY trusted that guy and he must of really tried being there for her. Tom was just immature and really childish to have been what Summer wanted. Which is why she says she found a love but not in him. Tom helped Summer find love while Summer helped Tom mature and do something better with his life. Which made him stop thinking that "True love comes at first sight" and all that jazz.

ANYWAYS My Review and analysis of the movie

...that actually clarified some of my confusion... go figure
Thanks metal

So I know I'm a year or two late on this, but I finally watched this movie. I rather liked it, but probably not for the reasons other people do.

I viewed it as a cautionary tale: men, don't be this goober. Nervously fidgeting for weeks before making a move on the girl you like? Obsessing over stupid minute details of her interaction with you? Placing her on a pedestal and worshiping the ground she walks on? Huge, relationship-killing mistakes. The thing that many guys (formerly myself) don't understand is that relentlessly worshiping a woman and trying to do everything to please her doesn't create attraction - it creates contempt.

Thing is, I used to be this guy. It was kind of depressing watching this movie and thinking, "man, I can't believe I used to be like that." At least I learned my lesson, and with a minimum of heartache required, really. And so I aim to go through life not as a noodle-brained girly-boy, but as a man with a modicum of self-respect and confidence. And I will try my best to exhibit the kind of behavior that will make women be attracted to me from within, not from begging and pleading.

But part of me thinks a lot of people who saw this film totally missed the point.

I kinda wanna watch the movie again. I really like it. I was too busy noticing the chick over the main character. Don't get me wrong, I did notice the main character.. He was clingy, at the same time was just too 'in love' to actually bother doing anything. Then again, he does do a lot of growing up throughout the movie.

I kinda am like him though. I put my girl on a pedestal. One thing I remember ones telling her
"You're this amazing girl whose sitting on this stool, and I'm just trying to grasp onto the leg of one trying not to fall off"
Her response
"You're not hanging onto the leg of the stool.
You're holding it up for me, don't you understand?"

Just reading that makes me sad..

[quote="MrkJulio"]
I kinda am like him though. I put my girl on a pedestal. One thing I remember ones telling her
"You're this amazing girl whose sitting on this stool, and I'm just trying to grasp onto the leg of one trying not to fall off"
Her response
"You're not hanging onto the leg of the stool.
You're holding it up for me, don't you understand?"

Just reading that makes me sad..[/quote]


What you said to her was self-depreciating, you were basically telling her that you're lost without her.
Don't fall for the trap of one-itis.

[quote="ThinlineTele"]So I know I'm a year or two late on this, but I finally watched this movie. I rather liked it, but probably not for the reasons other people do.

I viewed it as a cautionary tale: men, don't be this goober. Nervously fidgeting for weeks before making a move on the girl you like? Obsessing over stupid minute details of her interaction with you? Placing her on a pedestal and worshiping the ground she walks on? Huge, relationship-killing mistakes. The thing that many guys (formerly myself) don't understand is that relentlessly worshiping a woman and trying to do everything to please her doesn't create attraction - it creates contempt.

Thing is, I used to be this guy. It was kind of depressing watching this movie and thinking, "man, I can't believe I used to be like that." At least I learned my lesson, and with a minimum of heartache required, really. And so I aim to go through life not as a noodle-brained girly-boy, but as a man with a modicum of self-respect and confidence. And I will try my best to exhibit the kind of behavior that will make women be attracted to me from within, not from begging and pleading.

But part of me thinks a lot of people who saw this film totally missed the point.[/quote]

Thats exactly what I got from it. I think that many young men go through something similar which is why this movie became such a success, it caught the attention of many young couples and opened their eyes to how a relationship could fall apart if one were to try too hard to like another and vice versa. It gave women a chance to catch themselves making the same mistakes, falling for a guy who just wants to please you. I thought it was a great film, got the credit it deserved and is easily a movie you can watch again and again.

[quote="Utsuseru"]What you said to her was self-depreciating, you were basically telling her that you're lost without her.
Don't fall for the trap of one-itis.[/quote]


You are right. I was being a little too emotional. That was 2 years ago though. When we were just friends and my low self-esteem and self-confidence would show. I remember that night. I asked her to be my girlfriend she said she needs time. A few days later we get into a conversation and thing suddenly begin to change. I felt alone and empty. I couldn't take it. One day I sent her an email telling her that I do love her and all these things. I guess I kept showing her my weak vulnerable side. I did realized that there are other girls but her. That's why I don't believe in 'soul mates' anymore. She taught me that soul-mates isn't just ONE person who is meant for you. No, anyone could be your potential soul-mate. So as long as both parties are willing to give that effort. All these things..

In all honesty though. that same guy I was two years ago, is still here. It's not as desperate. But still clingy and hopelessly romantic. I don't like it. I cater too much to her needs. She has mentioned that she acts like a bitch just because she can. Then has mentioned that I don't speak up. I don't admit to how I'm really feeling sometimes. I don't know..

Either way. I wanna see this movie again.

[quote="Brye916"][quote="ThinlineTele"]So I know I'm a year or two late on this, but I finally watched this movie. I rather liked it, but probably not for the reasons other people do.

I viewed it as a cautionary tale: men, don't be this goober. Nervously fidgeting for weeks before making a move on the girl you like? Obsessing over stupid minute details of her interaction with you? Placing her on a pedestal and worshiping the ground she walks on? Huge, relationship-killing mistakes. The thing that many guys (formerly myself) don't understand is that relentlessly worshiping a woman and trying to do everything to please her doesn't create attraction - it creates contempt.

Thing is, I used to be this guy. It was kind of depressing watching this movie and thinking, "man, I can't believe I used to be like that." At least I learned my lesson, and with a minimum of heartache required, really. And so I aim to go through life not as a noodle-brained girly-boy, but as a man with a modicum of self-respect and confidence. And I will try my best to exhibit the kind of behavior that will make women be attracted to me from within, not from begging and pleading.

But part of me thinks a lot of people who saw this film totally missed the point.[/quote][/quote]

I didn't even catch this until Brye responded to it, but I couldn't have put it better myself.
I know what you mean about feeling depressed watching it, I used to be that guy too, and it's like watching yourself making your past mistakes all over again.
Needless to say, I cringed a lot seeing so much of myself in Tom,
but like you said, it's a lesson learned.

This sums up Tom's mistakes really well:
http://roissy.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/ ... s-of-beta/

This topic is entirely too tl;dr.

Can someone give a summarized version?

[quote="Blank"]This topic is entirely too tl;dr.

Can someone give a summarized version?[/quote]


Bitches be crazy.