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I like the pillows more now that I understand the lyrics.
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Author:  somedumbgamer [ Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:59 am ]
Post subject:  I like the pillows more now that I understand the lyrics.
I don't understand the lyrics completely but it's enough to get a general meaning of the lyrics most of the time, thanks to Japanese class. Now that I understand the words that they're actually saying, I'm starting to like them more and more. As a matter of fact, one of the reasons as to why I'm taking Japanese is so that I can understand Japanese lyrics.

"kamisama yori, kimi wo shinjiru..."
Author:  Tokpile Quohog [ Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:13 am ]
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Totally, understanding a piece of work definitely makes it more enjoyable. I've been thinking bout taking Japanese next year after I relearn Korean :| .
Author:  Snigwel [ Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:15 am ]
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I agree, as my knowledge of japanese increases, and with it my comprehension, songs that I've heard countless times become new again - which is pretty bloody awsome. And of course its great practice :ロ]
Author:  somedumbgamer [ Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:14 pm ]
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Yep, music is quite good for practice. I often try to learn all the vocabulary in a song, or study the structures they use and such.
Author:  Marekenshin [ Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:37 pm ]
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Song structures are strange though due to frequently throwing grammar out the window for metre or effect.

Snigwel, you should take a stab at translating stuff for us here. I'm sure by now your Japanese is far better than mine. XD

But I totally agree that I enjoy the pillows more when I understand what it is that he's singing about.
Author:  Snigwel [ Sat May 05, 2007 3:37 am ]
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[quote="Marekenshin"]Snigwel, you should take a stab at translating stuff for us here. I'm sure by now your Japanese is far better than mine. XD[/quote]
Oh no, my Japanese is still pretty trashy. I've improved a lot (especially with spending that time in Japan) but that's just compared to the previous worse-still me. My skills are still pretty lowly, and certainly no better than yours (which have improved at a quite impressive rate:0)

Anyhow, if I manage to get past finals I would like to try translating stuff for practice, though I think I might focus more on the Sparta Locals 'cause they hardly have anything translated to English (that I'm aware of), and they deserve to.
Author:  Marekenshin [ Sat May 05, 2007 3:40 am ]
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I'm really not good yet, and I'm pretty sure you've learned a lot more Japanese than I have by now, since I taught myself for two years and then took first year at college so far.
Author:  Snigwel [ Sat May 05, 2007 4:01 am ]
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[quote="Marekenshin"]I'm really not good yet, and I'm pretty sure you've learned a lot more Japanese than I have by now, since I taught myself for two years and then took first year at college so far.[/quote]
I dunno, I may have taken more courses, but I've really found personal independent studying to be far more beneficial than most of my courses (it seems to have worked for you to :0). Unfortunately, its only been relatively recently that I've been really motivated to study hard and consistently - not that I didn't study before, I still did decent in class and all, but my Japanese has only recently started to become ingrained in my mind in a usable way, and this because of really avidly working to absorb as much as I can from books about and in Japanese, talking to Japanese friends on skype and that sort of stuff. I am pleased that my Japanese has at last reached a communicative level where I feel like I can truthfully answer 'yes, a bit' if people ask me if I can speak Japanese (it sort of frustrates me when people consider themselves to be able to speak a language when they really only know a few phrases or something).

Which reminds me, I think I'll make a thread soon (too tired at the moment :ロ/ ) for posting reccommended studying aids and such. I feel that I've managed to find a good deal of really helpful books and applications and such, and I'm sure you and others have too, and, well, sharing rarely hurts (well, I suppose sharing blood can hurt a bit, but that can fit in the aforementioned 'rarely' catagory).
Author:  Marekenshin [ Sat May 05, 2007 4:07 am ]
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To be honest, I hardly use any sort of study aid. I just practice the stuff I learn, listen to lots of Japanese music, and translate songs every now and then. I hardly ever crack open my textbook, but occasionally look up grammar points that I don't know, and I use a dictionary to look up words I don't know when I see them. Romanizing songs also did a lot for my vocabulary and reading skills, I had to look up the kanji and would see the meaning along with how it was read, so I'd learn that way.
Author:  Snigwel [ Sat May 05, 2007 4:33 am ]
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Well aside from books (though there are some excellent ones) there are some really useful things (that you may or may not already know of) like the rikai-chan/perapera-kun firefox plugins which allow you to simply mouse over japanese text to view the kanji-compounds dictionary info. It's really good for practicing as you can try to read as much as you can of an article on a website or something, and then very easily "look up" any hard kanji or vocab. And then there's the 漢字そのまま楽引辞典 ds software, which I find myself using many times pretty much every day (it basically allows you to draw kanji on the ds to look them up, as well as having a few しおり files to save words you're working on memorizing, and a number of other great features (not to mention some game & watch games as easter eggs (the mention of which makes me really want to go play smash bros)).
Author:  Marekenshin [ Sat May 05, 2007 12:57 pm ]
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I have no DS, but I recently got the rikai-chan plugin, which is a hell of a lot easier than looking up kanji from a physical dictionary. :o
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