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Author:  Marekenshin [ Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:14 am ]
Post subject:  ROORERAI (AT LAST! THANK YOU KURU!)
I feel like an introduction to this is necessary. I've been trying to romanize, and hope to eventually translate all of the pillows's songs to make them accessible to everyone. At last, the final song from their old time has been made available, thanks to kuru. I'll translate this very soon.

Also, this song is hella underloved guys. Give it a chance, I actually really like it.

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sasowareteta you ni atarimae ni yukeba
yuruyaka ni mieta nagare wa itsushika kawari
hikikomareru...

omoidaseba nazeka namida no kawa ni ukabu
amai toki wa soko de iki ga tomari-sou na hodo ni
samete yuku

kanashii kurai suteki datta
RAIN no hotori de me to me ga atta yo ne
oboeteiru kai?

kikasete yo ROORERAI
tokete yuku you na utagoe de
boku wo mou ichido shizumete yo ne
ROORERAI

maboroshi ka mo shirenai keredo
sore demo aitakute suna de fune tsukutte
mukau kara SA

kikasete yo ROORERAI
tokete yuku you na utagoe de boku wo shizumete yo ne
kotaete yo ROORERAI
hitori dake no kanchigai nante shinjitakunai yo
onegai sa ROORERAI

oshiete yo ROORERAI
tashika ni utatte kureta ne boku no tame ni
ROORERAI...
Author:  Marekenshin [ Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:57 am ]
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Here's a stab at a translation. I'm sure there's some mistakes, some of these phrases were kind of tricky. Terra/kuru/Joeyuse?

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It was like I was being invited. When I naturally went,
the stream I saw had slowly changed unnoticed,
drawing me in...

If I remember, somehow that sweet time is there,
floating on a river of tears, becoming cold
almost to the point of stopping my breath.

Almost sad, it was wonderful.
Next to the Rhine, our eyes met.
Do you remember?

Tell me, Loreley;
with a singing voice that seems to dissolve,
submerge me once more,
Loreley.

It may be an illusion, but
I want to see you. I made a boat in the sand
to go towards you.

Tell me, Loreley;
with a singing voice that seems to dissolve, submerge me.
Answer me, Loreley;
I don't want to believe that this is just my misunderstanding.
Please, Loreley...

Please tell me, Loreley,
you really did sing for my sake.
Loreley...

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the part I'm most unsure of is how to phrase "toketeyuku you na utagoe de," which I put as "with a singing voice that seems to dissolve." :/
also, I put "me to me ga atta" as "our eyes met," though I'm not sure that's correct.

doing a search of the japanese wikipedia for "ローレライ," I got a return that mentioned germany's "ライン川," or "Rhine river." :D

further searching brought me to "ローレライ伝説," or the legend of Loreley:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loreley

Sawao is a fucking scholar.
Author:  kuru [ Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:18 am ]
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I do not have the English skill that can be adequately pointed out.

However, I think that it is wrong of this part.
[quote]"When I remembered, for some reason I floated in a river of tears.
That sweet time is there. It seemed as though I was about to stop breathing,
and I was becoming cold. "[/quote]

It's not I was becoming cold.
Sweet time floats on the river of tears, and becomes cold.
Author:  sheerheartattack [ Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:38 am ]
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If only we could combine kuru's understanding of Japanese with Marekenshin's understanding of English. We'd have Marekurushin, the ultimate translator.
Author:  Marekenshin [ Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:12 am ]
Post subject: 
[quote="kuru"]I do not have the English skill that can be adequately pointed out.

However, I think that it is wrong of this part.
[quote]"When I remembered, for some reason I floated in a river of tears.
That sweet time is there. It seemed as though I was about to stop breathing,
and I was becoming cold. "[/quote]

It's not I was becoming cold.
Sweet time floats on the river of tears, and becomes cold.[/quote]

Gotcha. So is it the river that was becoming cold, or the sweet time?
Author:  ThinlineTele [ Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:23 am ]
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This has always been one of my favorite old pillows songs. The solo roxxorz my boxxorz.
Author:  kuru [ Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:58 pm ]
Post subject: 
[quote="Marekenshin"][quote="kuru"]I do not have the English skill that can be adequately pointed out.

However, I think that it is wrong of this part.
[quote]"When I remembered, for some reason I floated in a river of tears.
That sweet time is there. It seemed as though I was about to stop breathing,
and I was becoming cold. "[/quote]

It's not I was becoming cold.
Sweet time floats on the river of tears, and becomes cold.[/quote]

Gotcha. So is it the river that was becoming cold, or the sweet time?[/quote]

Sweet time becoming cold.

In my interpretation. :?
Author:  Marekenshin [ Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:58 pm ]
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[quote]If I remember, somehow that sweet time is there,
floating on a river of tears, becoming cold
almost to the point of stopping my breath.[/quote]

Maybe this?
Author:  kuru [ Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:01 am ]
Post subject: 
[quote="Marekenshin"][quote]If I remember, somehow that sweet time is there,
floating on a river of tears, becoming cold
almost to the point of stopping my breath.[/quote]

Maybe this?[/quote]

It became near the correct answer . I think it is good in this translation.
Author:  Marekenshin [ Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:10 am ]
Post subject: 
Awesome.

Any other wrong parts you can see?
Author:  kuru [ Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:16 am ]
Post subject: 
[quote]It was like I was being invited. When I naturally went,
I went slowly, but I could see that the stream had changed unnoticed,
drawing me in... [/quote]
It's not I went slowly.
The stream was slowly.
Author:  Marekenshin [ Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:10 am ]
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[quote]It was like I was being invited. When I naturally went,
the stream I saw had slowly changed unnoticed,
drawing me in...[/quote]
this?
Author:  kuru [ Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:26 pm ]
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[quote="Marekenshin"][quote]It was like I was being invited. When I naturally went,
the stream I saw had slowly changed unnoticed,
drawing me in...[/quote]
this?[/quote]

Good :)

Other parts do not seem to have a problem.
Author:  Marekenshin [ Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:32 pm ]
Post subject: 
Awesome. :D Thanks so much for your help, and thanks for the scan as well!
Author:  sheerheartattack [ Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:57 pm ]
Post subject: 
[quote="kuru"][quote="Marekenshin"][quote]It was like I was being invited. When I naturally went,
the stream I saw had slowly changed unnoticed,
drawing me in...[/quote]
this?[/quote]

Good :)

Other parts do not seem to have a problem.[/quote]

Except for the awkward English phrasing. Not a complaint - just advice to aid Mare on his path to becoming a translation God.
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